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Wholehealth Products Inc (CE)

Wholehealth Products Inc (CE) (GWPC)

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philg philg 4 years ago
GWPC - TDAmeritrade will not allow purchases of it starting May 25 - https://www.tdameritrade.com/retail-en_us/resources/pdf/cesecuritylist.pdf - Incase anyone's interested.
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figaroimages figaroimages 4 years ago
The conversion will automatically happen, from one name to another, without any disturbance in your shares. That’s how it’s usually done. I’m also interested to buy shares. They seem to have a unique business model. This stock is very much under the radar. It appears that bids aren’t being accepted for the time being. It might be a matter of time being it comes back to life. I’m watching it.
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GoodTrade GoodTrade 4 years ago
I bought into this company stock when it was trading under GWPC and the SEC shut it down over using the Ebola outbreak to rocket the stock. Now, it's trading under GWPH and again benefiting from a virus outbreak. Not saying the company is selling snake oil, in fact, I held my shares in GWPC all these years because I believed they have a needed product. Now, how do I convert my WholeHealth GWPC shares into Wholehealth GWPH shares? The company has not responded to my request yet. Any ideas?
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02opida 02opida 6 years ago
no bid or ask or movement long time
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elkonig elkonig 6 years ago
Checking with the NVSOS it appears that Joe Arcaro and the Bauman family have HIJACKED this shell and renamed the company Global Wholehealth Partners Corp.
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02opida 02opida 7 years ago
will watch and wait & thanks for the link
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threewheeler threewheeler 7 years ago
https://backend.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/sec-filings/12646634/content/html usually filed b4 a r/m, coming back?
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02opida 02opida 7 years ago
Will it ever trade with bid & ask again


Gray Market now
GWPC
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SCJW32 SCJW32 7 years ago
Does anyone know if this company is related to Early Detect, Inc?
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02opida 02opida 7 years ago
volume today
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DragonBear DragonBear 7 years ago
GWPC filings being updated - not really

It's the first time I've seen a 10K without an auditor, and audited numbers. Instead they just threw some numbers together - which is ok for a 10Q, but not a 10K. They also owe the SEC audited 10Ks for 2014, 2015.

What you will see happening to satisfy filing requirements is ... nothing. No MM is going to sponsor a Form 211 for this scam, without the filing delinquency cured with audited 10Ks.

You might see PRs pumping this scam. That can continue indefinitely.

If one wants to believe in this scam, ask the questions: What does management claim as assets, and asset value?

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threewheeler threewheeler 7 years ago
see if they get this out of Greys
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threewheeler threewheeler 7 years ago
GWPC filings being updated see what happens here
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
let the trading begin.
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
no mention of "subsequent events-they bee screwed

They screwed up in another place...

Company description:

The Company today is in the business of developing, manufacturing and marketing in vitro diagnostic (IVD) tests for over-the-counter (OTC or consumer) and point-of-care (POC or professional) use markets. The Company currently manufactures and markets a range of diagnostic test kits...

And where are the manufacturing facilities located? Who has the out sourcing contract to manufacture the kits? They mention none.

How did an oil company suddenly get into having diagnostic test kits to sell? Ooooh yeah, they bought "Rapid Results". A pretend(?) distributor of the kits. Bought in Jun, with PR pumps about diagnostic kits right up to the suspension. What else did they say about the acquisition:

On June 4, 2014 the Company entered into an agreement to purchase all of the stock of Rapid Result, Inc., an LLC, for $500,000 payable is stock subject to certain conditions. The Company feels those conditions have not been met and have rescinded the agreement. The financials do not include any of the activity of the proposed acquisition.

Oops!!! We have an acquisition of a podunk fly by night distributor of diagnostic kits. Generating PRs out the kazoo in subsequent months, about diagnostic kits being developed, and sold. But they rescinded the agreement after closing back in Jun? In the end the pretend acquisition vaporizing into the mist. Yet the business description pretending they are still manufacturing, and selling diagnostic kits.

Our business plan is focused on expanding in the medical field but we do not anticipate that we will expend any significant funds on research and development.

There's false claims about working with the FDA on new Ebola kits. How does one develop kits out of the thin air with no R&D funding? Or work with the FDA without filing for an IDE?

A bunch of dummies. Nothing like a self hanging in front of the SEC.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
10k out. pretty dismal and no mention of "subsequent events".
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
No trades???? Explain???

There should've been some volume at the typical -80% by now. There's always forgotten bids left open during the run up, which get taken out fast by the flood of selling.

Ask your broker if the DTCC has a chill or global lock out on the stock. I've yet to be able to confirm either.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
most likely. of the thousands of stocks suspended over the last many years only one or two have ever gotten off the greys. you can see the history here.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=107537162
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Aloha50investr Aloha50investr 10 years ago
Thanks Lucky so my 24400 shares may be in grey space forever
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
the grey market is a matched market. trades have to be matched with volume and price.there will be no trades until buyers and sellers come to a meeting of the minds on price and the volume can be matched up; i.e. 3 buyers for a hundred shares and one selling 300. it can be mixed up in any way but in the end, the volume has to match.

another problem is that there are no market makers making a market. orders at one brokerage can not be seen by another brokerage. what commonly happens is that trades are done in house if there are enough customers. what i have seen happen before on thinly traded issues is that people post their orders, both buy and sell, along with what broker they are using, on this thread. that way people can get an idea of the price range and if they see something they like they can instruct their broker to contact the other broker.

hope this helps.
good luck.
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Aloha50investr Aloha50investr 10 years ago
No trades???? Explain??? I have seen grey's before and they trade at least some volume....
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
GWPC ON GREY MARKET


http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GWPC/quote
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
yes, it does. read the suspension notice

True. Which means whoever wrote the order doesn't like Turkey Bird day.

SEC to suspend trading in any stock for up to ten business days.

Was Turkey day a "business" day? Nope.

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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
yes, it does. read the suspension notice. it was over at midnight last night. there just haven't been any trades yet.
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
Its Dec 5th! still not trading!

Turkey day got in the way. A market holiday doesn't count as one of the 10 sessions for the suspension.

Note management has given notice of a NT-10K to the SEC, but hasn't been motivated enough to give a statement to their SHs about the suspension. Those chicken chits! LOL

It would be interesting to see the 10K, and the valuations they placed on the Canadian Diva acquisition. Alas, the probability of it appearing is low.
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The_Punisher The_Punisher 10 years ago
Its Dec 5th! still not trading!

WAABAAAM!!!!!
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
There is a real company with a 15 test kit

that is pushing to get approval. That is most likely why this got suspended.

No, nothing as esoteric as that. More boring.

GWPC buys a distributorship, that distributes test kits made by other manufacturers. Whether the podunk distributor typically sold 10 kits, or 1M per yr is unknown. GWPC then pretends to be developing test kits of its own, with no FDA database entries to indicate trivial things, like a IDE submission had ever been made.

Insiders conduct a P&D off the PRs, and most likely illegally dumped stock in violation of Rule 144. Can not dump, when delinquent on SEC filings. Then they suddenly started to crank out filings like wild to catch up, believing that would provide cover for the prior illegal dumping. Too late, and wouldn't have mattered.

Illegal dumping remains the primary likely culprit for the suspension. The bogus PRs about Ebola helped light up the SEC radar screen, at the wrong time.
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rs99 rs99 10 years ago
There is a real company with a 15 test kit that is pushing to get approval. That is most likely why this got suspended.
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PennystockDon PennystockDon 10 years ago
yes that what I meant to say that they get a MM to file the 211, those odds are terrible
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TenKay TenKay 10 years ago
Actually, to be specific, it is not done by the company but by a sponsoring market maker. The problem is, it is rare that a suspended company can convince a MM to sponsor a 211 because the MM assumes liability that the company and when the SEC suspends that is not an easy thing for the MM to do. Although it is not out of the question, I know of about 4 or 5 that have gotten a MM to submit one to Finra and there are probabaly alot more...only one has gotten a 211 approved in the last 2000+ suspensions.

The odds are terrible.
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PennystockDon PennystockDon 10 years ago
TenKay, I have done more research and you are absolutely right the only way this comes back is with an approved 211. I hope that they will file the 211 soon.
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lucky, mydog lucky, mydog 10 years ago
the sec has nothing to do with getting off the greys. it's finra. there is a process , however finra will not approve the process if there is an active sec investigation. basically the company needs to find a market maker willing to vouch for the company to submit a form 211. there is a lot to form 211 and it is very difficult for a company that has been suspended to find one. of the over 2000 stocks that have been suspended over the last few years only one or two have ever come off the greys. read the following post for a better understanding.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=107537162

for a better understanding of the 211 process, please see the following.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=99438652

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77560111
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PennystockDon PennystockDon 10 years ago
Thanks for the information TenKay
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
This turned out to be a giant scam! So disapointed.

Why should this one have been difficult to sniff out?

Start with the PRs claiming this or that phase 2, or other FDA filing. Any IDE submission in the FDA database from GWPC? Nope.

Proceed with looking for any present or past "Rapid Result" FDA submissions. None there.

What is the acquired company "Rapid Results". They did tell you in the PR:


"Rapid Results," a medical diagnostic distribution company of rapid diagnostic tests

No need for a "distributor" of products from other companies to ever interact with the FDA with filings.

Did GWPC ever claim to have a R&D budget? They claimed specifically to not have one. Then again, why would a distributor of vitamins, and assorted snake oil need a R&D budget?

The net result was a Vitamin distributor with limited revenue, bleeding balance sheet, buying a unknown distributor of diagnostic kits with unknown revenue. Then pretending to be making submissions to the FDA for the kits approval.

And where was the 8K from GWPC for the monumental RR acquisition? Management apparently thought SHs didn't need to know the details of an acquisition. However, they did consider it important to file a 8K so as to tell the SEC they moved their corporate "headquarters" from Las Vegas to Anahiem. Almost comical were their filing priorities.

This was an easy scam to figure out.
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HiddenGem69 HiddenGem69 10 years ago
This turned out to be a giant scam! So disapointed.
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TenKay TenKay 10 years ago
The only way it will get back to the OTC as a quoted stock is via approval of a 211 by FINRA

Only one company has managed that out of the last 2000+ suspensions over the last 5 years or so.
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
Based on some research I feel the suspension

resulted from a combination of Ebola News and their financial not justifying the news (lack of R&D budget).

If it were as simple as a previous filing being in conflict with a PR, 99% of the microcaps would already be suspended.

There was most likely illegal insider stock dumping as previously explained in a

prior post

The suspension should be lifted and continue to trade in the OTC Market.

That's a given. A suspension lasts 10 days. At which point the stock will resume trading on the grey sheet. It automatically happens. No action required by the company.

It might not be allowed to continue to be a SEC reporting company, due the number of times that you can be delinquent on your filings

A suspension has no effect on a filing company remaining a SEC filer. Technically they are still on the hook for delinquent filings, and to remain current. If they don't, then in about 2 yrs the SEC can delist them for failure to report. It's not unusual for a suspended filer to subsequently file a 15-12 to deregister the stock, and become a non-filer with the SEC.
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janice shell janice shell 10 years ago
It's already on the Greys:

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GWPC/profile
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PennystockDon PennystockDon 10 years ago
Based on some research I feel the suspension resulted from a combination of Ebola News and their financial not justifying the news (lack of R&D budget). If the company is able to provide the information required by the SEC. The suspension should be lifted and continue to trade in the OTC Market. It might not be allowed to continue to be a SEC reporting company, due the number of times that you can be delinquent on your filings

http://www.chadbourne.com/files/publication/8c793188-13cd-4b5c-8894-981185b4d15a/presentation/publicationattachment/2a46a74c-d333-46a4-991e-9a3bc2c378f0/whatlatesecfilersneedtoknow_bloomlaw102005.pdf

I will be honest I own some shares in this company and hope that I will not end in the grey sheets. We will all have to wait and see what happens on December 5th.
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
So I take it the suspension came from that ebola news ?

A series of fraud PRs alone wouldn't cause a OTC microcap stock to be suspended. If that were the case 99% of the OTC microcaps would already be suspended.

What the insiders most likely got nailed on was dumping, with the stock filings in a delinquent state. Violation of Rule 144. The subject of Ebola most likely aided the stock in percolating onto the SEC radar. If the stock had been about something else, maybe the insiders could've continued to dump undetected, and then file a Dec 2014 10K, in an attempt to provide cover for the previous illegal dump. Then hope the SEC didn't catch it later.
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TenKay TenKay 10 years ago
Nice to see the SEC actually moving relatively quickly on scams trying to use an epidemic scare to sell shares
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MaxPow MaxPow 10 years ago
So I take it the suspension came from that ebola news ? Because doesn't look like this stock seen too much volume other wise
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Aloha50investr Aloha50investr 10 years ago
Opening price .009......December 5th
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
Here , let me post the line that was actually posted

Could possibly make some money tomorrow on this POS !!

You left out the one before that:

FREAKING AWESOME opportunity here !!

Taken together seems a prediction of high hopes being conveyed for today. The suspension certainly met my high hopes.
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
So no trading till Dec 5th

It will already be on the greys when it opens. Expect a 80% PPS decline on the first session. Another 50% from there. After a couple of days it will be in the 0.00n range.

This stock never obtained cult status where the CEO was worshiped. Seems the insiders are keeping quiet about the suspension. Unclear how large the herd might be. Only one session close to 1M volume since 15-Oct. Those wishing to sell will have to depend on pending Bids from before the suspension, having been forgotten about. Make the Ask lot size small, and hope to escape.
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THE_BAMFACTSTER!! THE_BAMFACTSTER!! 10 years ago
$$ GWPC $$ Here , let me post the line that was actually posted yesterday!!

Could possibly make some money tomorrow on this POS !!

Now that is more like it !!

BAM !! FACT !!

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Aloha50investr Aloha50investr 10 years ago
So no trading till Dec 5th, then when it opens it automatically transfers to the greys?
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DragonBear DragonBear 10 years ago
Money is being made here !!

Not anymore.

Yesterday the line was: money is going to be made tomorrow. Apparently the equivalent of a paper trade was initiated yesterday in GWPC. Gotta admit the prediction yesterday has a certain flair of timing about it.

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ChitownMike ChitownMike 10 years ago
Good luck getting out on the grays lolol
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THE_BAMFACTSTER!! THE_BAMFACTSTER!! 10 years ago
$$ GWPC $$ Yes it is !! Wooohoooo !!

Another POS hits DA GRAYZZZZ !!!

Halted for only a short time !!

BAM !! FACT !!
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