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gdturner gdturner 8 years ago
Rest in peace ANRZQ, ANR and any other variation of Alpha Natural stock that was out there.
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
yes....next dead...the IH board site! (actually this board has been dead for some time!!)
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2times2 2times2 8 years ago
yes...my position is given a nr instead of ticker symbol...all limit orders were cancelled already...trading stopped...no bid no ask...its over
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Renee Renee 8 years ago
ANRZQ: BK PLAN effective. All shares cancelled at 12:39 P.M. E.S.T.:

http://otce.finra.org/DLDeletions
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
It was clearly stated in last week's 8-K that we shareholders would be given the shaft! Regardless of what happens in the courts now, we are toast.

If you read the plan of re-organization the New Alpha was to be formed solely for the purpose of meeting the environmental obligations with regard to clean up, etc. So whatever assets were to be retained in it would be just sufficient to generate the profits to meet these expenses.
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
News out today....certain assets transferred to Contura....Alpha emerges from Ch 11....what does that mean for shareholders...not very much...concerns about the cleanup mess will/could basically put us back into the red with a net of zero worth...my thoughts...anyone else.
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gdturner gdturner 8 years ago
Is our stock worthless now? Or will we still have stock in something, I know from doing research Alpha will become a private company after the bankruptcy. Sounds like they screwed us shareholders. Although, maybe one of the other companies involved in purchasing Alpha's assets might take over the common stock who knows. Anyone know? Obviously I am not gonna sell. would not even cover the commission fee of 9.99 lmao. Luckily I only have 45 bux invested or 2,000 shares when it was at .018 or something. I was hoping the common stock would be kept and Alpha remain a public company.

It is no big loss to me if it is worthless now. However, I am sure there are shareholders who lost a great deal of money, if our stock is now worthless.
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2times2 2times2 8 years ago
Uhhhh...for me its more like 9.5K I just figured...sorry and good luck to you,too
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
at this point....over 40K losses it is better for myself...writeoff over time... .01 wont do one thing for me at this point...too bad what happened...GLTY times2times2....
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2times2 2times2 8 years ago
Unfortunately only debtors will see some money. Our unsecured "equity" will not be worth a cent. And its very clear by now that our shares will be cancelled and not lead to any compensation in the form of the newly issued shares upon completion of the restructuring and emergence from bankruptsy

I had materialized losses of some $ 8K and just 20k shares left but if i had any more shares I would sell them now before pps hits 0001 and no bid
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qmc qmc 8 years ago
Possibly this means cancellation of all equity interest in the bankrupt company.
Where is the projected balance sheets of both the new company and the reorganized company?Hard to believe that actual equity is 0 in the reorganized company.
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2times2 2times2 8 years ago
common stock to be cancelled - from todays 8K:

Item 3.03. Material Modification to Rights of Security Holders.

Pursuant to the Plan and the Confirmation Order, all equity interests in the Company (including outstanding shares of preferred stock, common stock, options, warrants or contractual or other rights to acquire any equity interests in the Company) are to be cancelled on the Effective Date of the Plan and are not entitled to receive any distributions on account of such equity interests.
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
Juan, any updates?
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I meant that the comment in red in my message was not there in the original. I put it just to show that since it was not there we would not get anything.

Where and how did you come up with the 20%? Did you consider all the claimants for the new ANR and arrive at this?
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I meant that the comment in red in my message was not there in the original. I put it just to show that since it was not there we would not get anything.

Where and how did you come up with the 20%? Did you consider all the claimants for the new ANR and arrive at this?
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
but newco is the other company, we wil be new ANRZ
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I must clarify that I inserted the comment in red to show that it should have been that way for us to get something.
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
I think seeing the balance that we will have about 20% of new anrz.
This new company will have assets about 1.5 billio $
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
then we will have something. and the new ANRZ and their new shareholders will put all efforts for the stock be traded
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I'm not sure it means that. Look, it should have been mentioned here:

The Plan continues, โ€œIn accordance with the terms and conditions of the Global Settlement Term Sheet, the Debtors, in consultation with the Creditorsโ€™ Committee, shall use reasonable best efforts to structure the Reorganized ANR Common Stock so that such shares are tradable; provided that the costs to the Debtors and Reorganized ANR of doing so will be considered as to whether such efforts are โ€˜reasonable.โ€™โ€ฆConsistent with the Restructuring Transactions, the NewCo Equity shall be issued by NewCo on or prior to the Effective Date. On the Effective Date and consistent with the Restructuring Transactions: (a) NewCo Common Stock and NewCo Warrants shall be distributed to holders of (i) Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan and (ii) Allowed Category General Unsecured Claims pursuant to Sections II.B.7 and II.B.8 of the Plan (iii)holders of pre-BK ANR stock ; and (b) NewCo Preferred Interests shall be distributed to holders of Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan.โ€
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
The ancient share holder wil have someting.


The Plan continues, โ€œIn accordance with the terms and conditions of the Global Settlement Term Sheet, the Debtors[color=red][/color], in consultation with the Creditorsโ€™ Committee, shall use reasonable best efforts to structure the Reorganized ANR Common Stock so that such shares are tradable; provided that the costs to the Debtors and Reorganized ANR of doing so will be considered as to whether such efforts are โ€˜reasonable.โ€™โ€ฆConsistent with the Restructuring Transactions, the NewCo Equity shall be issued by NewCo on or prior to the Effective Date. On the Effective Date and consistent with the Restructuring Transactions: (a) NewCo Common Stock and NewCo Warrants shall be distributed to holders of (i) Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan and (ii) Allowed Category General Unsecured Claims pursuant to Sections II.B.7 and II.B.8 of the Plan; and (b) NewCo Preferred Interests shall be distributed to holders of Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan.โ€

http://bankruptcompanynews.com/anr-bankrutpcy-7-13-16/
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toad511 toad511 8 years ago
Could be. We don't know. 9 times out of 10 tells me. We're the last to know. Take what u can get.
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
This doesn't look like a run. More of a stealthy accumulation following a hasty sell off by some clueless retail
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toad511 toad511 8 years ago
None of us knows. But favorite plays are Qs. Take what u can get. One in a 100000 r home runs. So just take a %. U can never go wrong
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
So what you're saying is that this is just a run, and not an indication that we'll get something post BK?
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toad511 toad511 8 years ago
When it goes. Take profits. Shud run ounce more.
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
buyers and accumulation
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
1,5 billion in usa, 1.500 million in europe
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
you mean $1.5 billion or million?

Anyway, the company will be owned by unsecured creditors, per the BK filing while Contura by secured lenders. The only uncertainty here is what percentage of the new private company will be own by common: 2%, 3%, ?
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
Full gas, full gas............

The mines that we will have in new ANRZ have worth 1.500 millions $.
5$ per stock.

Millions in millions europeans.
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buylow2 buylow2 8 years ago
did anyone notice ACIIQ arch coal, is something going on where shares of these 2 companies are worth something
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toad511 toad511 8 years ago
Looking for momentum play
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Shadowfaxin Shadowfaxin 8 years ago
I feel alot better now LOL. Does Anyone really know what is going on here?
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
Molycorp is traded all days.
Molycorp was split this spring, now sahreholders have one mine in california,
I'm shareholder molycorp since october 2015
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I don't think you are right. Molycorp shareholders didn't get anything, if Molycorp is what you mean
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
The ANR announcement said that the ancient ANR will be a private company owned by unsecured creditors. Why TF didn't they clarify the position of shareholders? I simply don't understand
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
The ANR announcement said that the ancient ANR will be a private company owned by unsecured creditors. Why TF didn't they clarify the position of shareholders? I simply don't understand
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juan from Madrid juan from Madrid 8 years ago
The rest of ancient ANZ will be our .In Molycor when the company was split ,one part of them,was had by old shareolders, The molycorps holders have a great mine in california.
Here, can happen something seemed.
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
Juan was only guessing and he's out of his wits I presume. Huge dump y'day followed by accumulation today. What's the meaning?
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Shadowfaxin Shadowfaxin 8 years ago
I will not make a move until, I hear from Juan, What sayeth Juan. I'm serious. I can't find any explanations for anything here. Other than opinions.
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slingbuck slingbuck 8 years ago
Hi, I am still here and holding everything I have purchased over the past 10 months from ANRZQ. I almost sold yesterday but the lack of specifics regarding shareholders made me hold tight. I think it was mostly post bk traders selling the past day or two. Big money has lost so much they will just hold and try to sue someone after delisting. If you lost 5, 10 ,20, 50 bucks a share over the past 5-6 years why would you dump suddenly over past couple of days? Especially with what we all know happened with anr management and the monthly statements post bk.........1.5 billion is shareholder equity the first few months post bk........I don't know what is going to happen but most big money that was going to sell sold late 2015 to offset gains for that years. That is partly why is started rising Jan 2 2016.

To be honest......I will need the big volume like this or more to sell out fast. I rolled the dice big and the dice haven't stopped rolling yet.

If i lose it won't change my life...........it i win i will buy my wife I new GT Mustang and if I win big I will pay off the house.

She has never forgiven me for trading in her GT Mustang for a mom car.
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
Accumulation....we can only hope for ALOT OF IT!!!!
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
Looks like accumulation is in progress... wtf ... strange, this late in the game hmmm?
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
If you'd paid attention to bid and ask today, it looked manipulative, like dropping the bid to get you to sell, or raising ask beyond the prevailing price , etc. This can't have been the response of the MMs to institutional selling. It looked more like they were targeting retailers
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
But why would they delay disclosing everything? what's the point, if they were going to screw us big time they might as well do it quickly
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
My thoughts...god I wish I had some good ones...I think that the details are not favorable for us shareholders....yes, maybe we get something...for a price?? I really don't know but SOME FOLKS/FUNDS OR SOMETHING KNOWS SOMETHING....We just have to wait..maybe tomorrow morning or later in the week we might hear something..
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
sure it is not good. But why won't they disclose the details? any thoughts? in most BK situations they clearly state that the common will be wiped out or (rarely) given a small share. Nothing of that sort has happened here
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
Whether big money or not the drop like this with that volume....not good...we do not know the details but I bet they are not good for Alpha common shareholders
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pankajanc pankajanc 8 years ago
I'm not sure if it was big money that was bailing today. I watched the bid and ask intermittently and it appeared that it was fashioned towards retailers. Remember that retail bought big post BK with the expectation of a miracle. Remember all those posts by aceQ, time2time, etc that bought lots and lots? A big holder like an institution would simply dump and move on, but the bid kept dropping, but not the ask when then dumps were happening. this tells me that it was the retail.

We still don't know what the plan is for the commons. Because the BK submission said that the common holders would have no rights except the rights as disclosed in the plan, which has not been public.

Remember that Contura got the mines in exchange for the debt. And what is left is the debt free, but private Alpha, owned by unsecured debt. So what were the rights granted in the private Alpha to common that the BK statement refers to?
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thehondomeister thehondomeister 8 years ago
My guess Rainer.....news hit to big money early...the 'devil in the details' on this whole ANRZQ came out and it is not good...JMO of course....anyone else out there...thoughts?
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