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Golfbum22 Golfbum22 15 minutes ago
Can someone x or tweet this post at Calabria daily and many many times until he stops making comments about the gse’s?

Thank you !
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tm3141 tm3141 35 minutes ago
this is hype and manipulation by only talking about the spike, ignoring the huge drop just few weeks back, could be the same group of people
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blownaccount9 blownaccount9 45 minutes ago
Article is sort of garbage when it comes to breaking down the numbers. Yes they have 2% liability coverage, but those liabilities are almost always have at a minimum 20% loan to value coverage. So homeowners take the first hit and then if their value drops further then that they can consider declaring bankruptcy and walking away. Almost no one would do that though I imagine once rates drop refinancing should result in lowering payments enough that there won’t be a flood of bankruptcies.
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Rodney5 Rodney5 49 minutes ago
Anyone new to the board link below…

The Honorable Rand Paul United States Senate Washington, D.C.

Dear Senator Paul,

DONALD J. TRUMP November 1, 2021
Thank you for talking to me about the need to privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two great American companies, and about the question the Supreme Court has raised about what I would have been able to accomplish if I had been able to fire the incompetent Mel Watt from day one of my Administration.

Another Obama/Biden scam in legal trouble was when they allowed the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) to steal the retirement savings of hardworking Americans who had invested in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In a recent ruling, the Supreme Court has recognized that my Administration was denied the ability to oversee the work of FHFA in violation of the Constitution. The Supreme Court's decision asks what I would have done had I controlled FHFA from the beginning of my Administration, as the Constitution required. From the start, I would have fired former Democrat Congressman and political hack Mel Watt from his position as Director and would have ordered FHFA to release these companies from conservatorship. My Administration would have also sold the government's common stock in these companies at a huge profit and fuly privatized the companies. The idea that the government can steal money from its citizens is socialism and is a travesty brought to you by the Obama/Biden ad ministration. My Administration was denied the time ti needed to fix this problem because of the unconstitutional restriction on firing Mel Watt. It has to come to an end and courts must protect our citizens.

Link: https://assets.realclear.com/files/2021/11/1921_trump_letter_to_rand_paul.pdf
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Patswil Patswil 58 minutes ago
Thanks for posting this
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Rodney5 Rodney5 59 minutes ago
The SCOTUS decision enabled Trump to fire Mel Watt that’s the reason Mark Calabria got the job. The Trump letter to Rand Paul explained it.

Who in their right mind would not agree with Barron’s statement…. “They should have nullified all the decisions done up to that point by unconstitutional single directors and sent HERA back to the drawing board at Congress. Congress should have required an independent commission be created and appointed conservator of a GSE. Imagine if the Commission had to vote on accepting Treasury’s corrupt terms and conditions for its purchase agreements? It would be like just about every other independent agency and would only have needed to be independent when acting as a Conservator.”
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navycmdr navycmdr 2 hours ago
Fannie Mae: An Indirect Bet On Trump Polling Numbers

Jun. 30, 2024 3:29 AM ET - Harrison Schwartz - 15.59K Followers

.......... Summary ..........

--- Fannie Mae's value has rocketed higher following the Trump-Biden debate, implying it is an indirect bet on a Trump win.

--- Historically, Trump is far more likely to end FNMA's conservatorship than the Biden administration.

--- There are no guarantees that Trump will successfully end the conservatorship, having not done so in his last term. Further, FNMA's fundamental risks would not necessarily decline in this scenario.

--- Fannie Mae's book value should be below its market value by 2027-2028 at its current income level, given it continues to retain its profits.

--- Although home prices seem likely to decline, Fannie Mae's exposure is limited because very few people are obtaining mortgages at today's extremely low affordability levels.



The Federal National Mortgage Association, or "Fannie Mae" (OTCQB:FNMA), has avoided significant headlines in recent years. The government-sponsored enterprise remains in conservatorship under the Federal government roughly sixteen years after its failure. Fannie Mae and its peer, Freddie Mac (OTCQB:FMCC), are the primary mortgage insurance providers to qualified or "agency-backed" mortgages, backing around 70% of US mortgages. Most mortgages are pooled into mortgage-backed securities or "MBS," such as those seen in the ETF (MBB).

Fannie Mae is on the hook if mortgage borrowers fail to pay their loans. Thus, theoretically, mortgage-backed securities have limited credit risk, given that Fannie Mae should protect against losses. Historically, that would not be true if not for the government bailout in 2008, as Fannie Mae (and its peer) lacked the funds to meet the immense obligations created during the 2008 foreclosure crisis.

The company has not been tested to the same degree since then. Although delinquencies rose in 2020, these were classified as "forbearance," stemming from the temporary issues created during the large but short-lasting unemployment spike during lockdowns. In my view, if not for the immense QE-driven decline in mortgage rates in 2020 and the stimulus efforts, we would not have seen the recovery in real estate.

Of course, we could argue that the housing market's "recovery" since 2020 has created a renewed housing bubble. Home valuations are at record highs. Now that mortgage rates are far higher, affordability is extremely low. Home sales are also at, and often below, the levels seen during 2008. The market has had added support from rising rents and low inventories, though these two beneficial factors are fading, increasing the potential for a decline in home prices over the coming year or two. As such, we must reconsider the risk profile facing Fannie Mae to determine if its long era of conservatorship has improved its stability.

Further, we must consider the election, as it is generally viewed that a Trump administration would end its conservatorship. Hence, the stock is positively correlated to Trump's poll numbers. The company was close to restructuring and privatization toward the end of his term, but that was upended by the economic shock caused by lockdowns. As such, I'd argue that macroeconomic factors play a more significant role in FNMA's value regardless of who wins in November.

Fannie Mae's Capitalization is Improving

Investors in mortgage-backed securities indirectly pay a small fee to Fannie Mae to provide insurance risk coverage, ranging from 25 to 50 bps. Typically, the number of mortgages in default that require Fannie Mae coverage is relatively low and predictable. Thus, the company usually earns a solid profit margin on its revenue. In a normal (non-recessionary) period, its profitability is primarily driven by its operating overhead costs, which have been sustained at ~10% in recent
years. See below:



Fannie Mae is earning significant profits today because very few mortgage owners are in default. The 2010s decade saw very low mortgage rates and fair housing prices. Those who borrowed in this period often had lower payments than their incomes, giving them low default risks. Fannie Mae cannot pay its income out to investors, per its conservatorship rules, but it has used this income to improve its balance sheet. Still, its net book value for common stock investors is quite negative. See below:



The company's shareholder equity was near zero from 2010 to 2020, as it was still not seeing great solvency improvement as it recouped its immense losses from the decade prior. Thus, there is a large time lag between the company's solvency and the solvency of homeowners. Today, it is benefiting from the strong solvency conditions of those who borrowed during the 2010s. Depending on what occurs in the property market, it may be years before current borrowing conditions impact its solvency.

Fannie Mae's equity is much healthier today, but its equity for common stockholders remains very negative, amounting to a book value per share of -$50. In other words, should the company liquidate all its assets, liabilities, and preferred equity, it would have no money for common shareholders in FNMA. Thus, FNMA is similar to a stock option or warrant on the company's overall equity. Its fundamental value may rise dramatically above its current value only if its common equity rises by another ~$58B.

FNMA's market value is $8.2B, so a $66B increase to its common equity (through retained earnings) must be discounted to its book value. The company's annual income has been around $15B to $20B in recent years, and all else being equal, it should rise with today's larger mortgage sizes (given home prices), so its book value should be very attractive within three to four years.

If we could assume that there was zero risk to the housing market, FNMA would likely be undervalued today since its net income is generally 2X its market value. However, if a slight shock exists in the property market, this value trade is upended. Fannie Mae's solvency has markedly improved, but its total liabilities to assets remain at 98%. See below:



So, if Fannie Mae takes a 2% loss on its assets, its shareholder equity (including preferreds) would be back at zero. From 2008 to 2012, Fannie Mae's book value fell by ~$150B. It had around $880B in assets in 2008, meaning it took a ~17% loss due to that mortgage crisis. So, even if we see a similar issue around a sixth as large, there is decent potential that FNMA's equity would be back at zero.

Home Prices Will Fall, But Fannie's Risk Is Low

The housing market today is similar to that of 2008 in many respects. However, the key difference is that most outstanding mortgages were made at far more affordable rates and prices. From 2020 to 2022, the company saw its assets rise by a staggering ~$750B, but that figure has stagnated since then since very few people are willing to buy homes at today's affordability level.

Theoretically, this limits Fannie Mae's exposure significantly because current borrowers are at much greater default risk than those of the 2012-2022 period, given affordability. We can see this statistic from today's low mortgage debt service payments to disposable income ratio:



This figure is more important for Fannie Mae than others. In 2006-2008, there was a housing valuation bubble, and many people were buying into that bubble. Today, there is, in my view, a potentially larger housing bubble, but far fewer people are exposed to it. Indeed, if we look at mortgage debtors at large, their ability to pay their debt has never been better.

It is the new borrowers that Fannie Mae needs to worry about. Home sales prices to income are relatively high today as affordability is low. Home sales are back at extreme lows after the housing shock and 2020. See below:



Notably, the US median home price to income ratio is around 7.7X today, well above the 6.7X peak in 2006. The metric above compares the price of homes sold to disposable incomes (which are lower), so it is a higher ratio. Further, the metric above has declined because smaller-priced homes are moving much better today than larger, more expensive ones; the actual overall home price-to-income ratio has not declined since 2022, as home values continue to march to all-time highs.

Realistically, large homes are probably significantly overvalued today. Technically, their values have not declined significantly, but they're also not moving. This is seen as older Americans are typically not selling their usually larger homes, defying the historical pattern. Suppose this changed and more looked to downsize. In that case, I believe there would be significant negative price discovery in larger homes because they're currently highly unaffordable to those who require a large mortgage.

This is a significant risk to the housing market but is likely not a risk to Fannie Mae. Most owners of large homes are older and, therefore, have lower mortgage debt insured by Fannie. Further, that demographic likely purchased their homes at a much lower price, so a decline in valuation would only limit appreciation gains, not resulting in negative equity.

Arguably, home prices have not declined because inventories have been low. Rental vacancy levels have also been low, stemming from decreased building activity in the 2010s. This is starting to change, as building activity rose significantly from 2019 to 2022 and is now reversing. Inventories and rental vacancies are also increasing, signaling a shift back toward a "buyers' market." See below:



Overall, I think there are many tell-tale signs that US home prices are in the process of peaking and should decline. Theoretically, a substantial decline of around 50% is needed for affordability to return to historically normal levels. Realistically, home prices should not fall by 50% outside of a severe economic crisis. Instead, I expect prices will stagnate or decline while inflation will increase, creating a ~50% decline compared to a decade or more in the future. Thus, it will likely be that people will begin to see housing as a poor investment, but I only expect those who purchased from 2022 onward to be at risk of negative equity (the chief risk for Fannie Mae).

Fannie Mae's Political Exposure is Large

FNMA's value has spiked by 25% over the past week, with most gains occurring after the recent Trump-Biden debate. It is not my aim to present a political bias here, but it is a fact that Trump is far more interested in releasing Fannie Mae than Biden. In 2021, the Biden administration utilized a Supreme Court ruling to fire the Trump-appointed FHFA chief interested in ending its conservatorship.

Since the debate, betting odds of Trump returning to office rose from ~52% to ~59%, while Biden's fell from 45% to 36%. FNMA's value has spiked accordingly, adding to its 230% YoY gain, which largely stems from the positive longer-term trend in Trump's odds compared to Biden's. Still, there remains considerable potential that Democrats do win, which would likely delay Fannie Mae's restructuring. Further, Trump did not end this issue during his term, so there is no guarantee that he will in a potential future term.

The political issue seems to have had a significant impact on FNMA's volatility lately. That said, I don't think it's essential in the long run. Fundamentally, FNMA's equity value will rise if mortgages don't go belly-up. Yes, FNMA could have dividend potential under Trump, but I think it would be fine if it retained its income and improved its solvency further before paying dividends. Of course, an end to conservatorship would give FNMA other benefits, such as more capital access that may benefit it, so a Republican win is bullish for FNMA.

The Bottom Line

Fannie Mae's risk-reward profile today is tricky. I'd argue the US housing market is weak. Further, based on an argument I've presented regarding bonds, unemployment will likely rise over the coming year in a recession. For this reason, I think investors should be cautious about buying housing-related stocks, particularly homebuilders.

However, Fannie Mae's risk is significantly mitigated because most homeowners today are not in the high-risk cohort created in 2022. It would take a massive decline in home prices for the median homeowner today to have negative equity.

Still, even if a small portion of Fannie Mae's exposure is to those new buyers since 2022, that could be enough to create significant issues for the company, particularly if it coincides with an unemployment driven recession. Its solvency is much better than it was, but it is still not necessarily adequate.

On the other hand, FNMA's valuation is extremely low compared to its potential EPS if released from conservatorship. My view on FNMA is very speculative, but I am bullish on it since I think its financial risk exposure to mortgages is low. The odds of Trump winning are decent, albeit far from guaranteed, at ~60%. That is not a political opinion but a view based on the betting market odds (which may be more accurate than polling data).

That said, FNMA faces significant risk. It is very volatile and has a negative common book value. I expect it may decline during a housing market shock and recession over the next year or two, so my bullish outlook is long-term. Unless the recession is severe, I'd see declines in FNMA's value as a buying opportunity. Lastly, the long-term risk to FNMA is likely new homebuyers from 2022 onward. If the housing bubble continues, FNMA may end up in a 2008 repeat as it's exposed to a more significant portion of high-risk loans.

Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.

This article was written by - Harrison Schwartz - 15.59K Followers
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Stern is Bald Stern is Bald 2 hours ago
Would your dad have any investment insight today?
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RickNagra RickNagra 2 hours ago
Oh wow. Second article today. We could see a pop Monday.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4120865-fannie-mae-matterport-gain-as-debate-increase-odds-of-trump-win
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Possum336 Possum336 2 hours ago
Or maybe it's just end of quarter short covering
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4701658-fannie-mae-fnma-stock-an-indirect-bet-on-trump-polling-numbers
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Wise Man Wise Man 9 hours ago
Senator Padilla is right. The unsophisticated judiciary is a big problem.
No matter how you dress it up. Dividend payments are never interest payments, if this is what they are after, after overruling Chevron.

We saw the example of justice Alito, not only talking about "dividend obligation" in order to turn a dividend payment (Changes in Equity on the Balance Sheet. I.e., a distribution of Earnings -CET1-. Restricted.) into interest payment (An expense on the Income Statement. Without restrictions) like the FHFA, the litigants and the FnF management (all of them in court too), evidence that he was egged on, but also outlining what he wanted the endgame to become, and not the reality of the written text and basic financial concepts.
For instance, with the "beneficial to the FHFA", thinking of monetary benefit, when the written text states "in the best interests of the FHFA". The interests in a regulatory agency, with respect to the regulated entities it oversees, are never monetary.
This is why the "blame DeMarco", that started in the Lamberth trials, was defused in time. DeMarco is the one that legalized their actions. The plotters want the judge to legalize them instead, with their twists.

I bet that Justice Alito still doesn't understand that, either on purpose or inadvertenly, he was talking about the Separate Account plan, 1989 FHLBanks-style, which is what really is "rehabilitating FnF" that he pointed out, and upholding all the statutory provisions and basic Finance.

He authorized also keeping the funds owed to FnF for the Making Home Afforfable program, and the use of FnF for Public policies like nowadays (loan sales to minority- and women-owned businesses, etc.)

Finally, the "for cause" removal restriction is constitutional when the FHFA has very limited powers (mentioned by the SCOTUS-appointed amicus, prof. Nielson, representing the FHFA in the Collins case), both as conservator and as regulator, in congressionally-chartered private corporations and with the FHEFSSA that evaluates the financial condition. For that, first he has to acknowledge that the Charter Act exists.
Justice Alito declared it "unconstitutional", so that now Tim Pagliara, the Conspirator in Chief, can claim that it's the President the one in charge of the resolution of Fanniegate, a President in need of public recognition.
It's Congress for the Privatized Housing Finance System revamp chosen in 2011 for the release, jointly with the FHFA and the UST after coming clean about the Separate Account plan, including the refund of the unlawful Credit Enhancement operations, other than the PMI and the Commingled securities (Credit Enhancement clause. Charter Act).
Let alone a refund of the PLMBS lawsuit settlement, net of attorney's fees.

We stand with DeMarco.
UNSOPHISTICATED JUDICIARY
-Chevron deference attempted to legalize unlawful actions, notwithstanding that it's DeMarco who legalized them all.
-Now, no deference,in order to peddle the *blame DeMarco"(abusive conservator)for the h-funds' battered JPS' Implied Contract.#Fanniegate pic.twitter.com/NXvl5QKXxL— Conservatives against Trump (@CarlosVignote) June 29, 2024
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Wise Man Wise Man 10 hours ago
Indeed. "Barron = Rodney" plus other 50 aliases.
Judge Lamberth and judge Sweeney called him "pro se". I call him Mr. Pro Se.
The management should have stored my JPS dividend, he claimed in court.
Clueless.
He thinks that, by filing frivolous lawsuits, he can negotiate a better deal for the battered JPS. This is why he's been filing new lawsuits every time one got dismissed. 4 in total.

Just like the attorney for Berkowitz, the almighty David Thompson, seizing control of other 4 cases (Bhatti, Rop, Collins, Robinson) and, since last week, another one was added with Wazee.

The fate of the JPS is already written. It's called fair value chart under the Separate Account plan, which is a normal Conservatorship carried out secretly, precisely, to allow the JPS holders to negotiate with their frivolous lawsuits.
(*)Chart assessed with a 6% discount rate.


Nowadays, stuck at their par value valuation with this overtime in the conservatorship (Freddie Mac JPS since one year earlier), thanks to the Incidental Power of the conservator, presumably because it wants to get rid of the AT1 Capital instruments (JPS) before the announcement by the Congress of a Privatized Housing Finance System revamp, chosen for the release in 2011 by the UST, at the request of the Dodd-Frank law.
Which is what it already did with the FHLBanks in 2016: "Membership cleansing".


That scenario is only possible with CET1 > 2.5% of Adjusted Total Assets.
Currently, after the redemption of the JPS, FnF could even resume the dividend payments with more than the minimum threshold of 25% of their Prescribed Capital Buffer (Table 8: Payout ratio).
Capital Buffer: amount above the minimum threshold Tier 1 Capital > 2.5% of ATA.
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tutt1126 tutt1126 10 hours ago
Why would the buying from Friday continue?

Well ! One possible answer is that July 1 is the last day of bond debt securities to trade on NYSE.
This means that bond investors will have to sell at the lost.
My point is simple.
Will they sell bond at the lost to buy fmcc and fnma and including all preferred shares?

Here is the information I copied
"US Banks Dumping Exposure To $2,500,000,000,000 Market Before ‘Inevitable Losses’ Hammer Balance Sheets" starting Monday.

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jog49 jog49 10 hours ago
Let's face it . . . he had no clue of what to do when he got the job. I've never seen an academic, thrown into a real world job, that could pour piss out of a boot and Calabria was no exception.
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bradford86 bradford86 13 hours ago
I think the buying from friday continues — that debate was an awakening of animal spirits of buying we saw friday. Hard to imagine that buying spirit fading out of sight for very long
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 14 hours ago
catman was the architect of hera
catman hid stress test
catman put in absurd capital levels
catman lied to everyone that he was working on releasing them
catman lied that conservatorship will end in 2024 despite knowing of his absurd capital levels and putting that letter agreement in place before he left with every penny still owed to treasury.
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 14 hours ago
and catman learnt it from his cat.
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 15 hours ago
Correct. Only the "removal clause" was unconstitutional. The rest of HERA remains intact.

Barron is wrong.
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Guido2 Guido2 15 hours ago
My response to my State Senator:
You think it's OK for a federal agency to keep 2 of the most profitable corporations in a "temporary" conservatorship since 2008 and swindle $301 billion of their equity?

If US is not a🍌 REPUBLIC...
DISSOLVE @FHFA !
FREE FANNIE!
FREE FREDDIE!— Guido da Costa Pereira (@GuidoPerei) June 30, 2024
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jog49 jog49 15 hours ago
"Come on man! How do you think Mark Calabria got his job when he did?"

My guess would have been he spent a lot of time under Pence's desk.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 16 hours ago
I don't think that happened so it can't be cited but I sure could site it as undesirable for shareholders!!! lol
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 16 hours ago
It's happening so much so that it's bordering on monopoly. They say there are not enough single family homes and more need to be built. I recently say two new developments come available - 89 houses and 376 houses. In each case a large investor came in and bought every house for cash, above market level. This allowed for ZERO homes available for non billionaires to purchase. Every single home became a rental. This is a monopoly and monopolies are illegal.
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The Man With No Name The Man With No Name 18 hours ago
Come on man! How do you think Mark Calabria got his job when he did? The Supreme Court found the “for cause” requirement for the POTUS to remove the FHFA Director unconstitutional. The Supremes used a scalpel to remove that clause and keep the rest of HERA instead of a bulldozer to get rid of HERA. That enabled Trump to can Mel Watt and install Mark Calabria the cat man. I think that was a lousy decision. They should have nullified all the decisions done up to that point by unconstitutional single directors and sent HERA back to the drawing board at Congress. Congress should have required an independent commission be created and appointed conservator of a GSE. Imagine if the Commission had to vote on accepting Treasury’s corrupt terms and conditions for its purchase agreements? It would be like just about every other independent agency and would only have needed to be independent when acting as a Conservator.

Wow how lost can you be?
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Golfbum22 Golfbum22 19 hours ago
Whatever you’re smoking

Can we have some?

lol

Price per share will not get anywhere close to pre conservatorship prices while still in conservatorship

Aka govt prison

No one trusts the government
No one
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Barron4664 Barron4664 19 hours ago
Come on man! How do you think Mark Calabria got his job when he did? The Supreme Court found the “for cause” requirement for the POTUS to remove the FHFA Director unconstitutional. The Supremes used a scalpel to remove that clause and keep the rest of HERA instead of a bulldozer to get rid of HERA. That enabled Trump to can Mel Watt and install Mark Calabria the cat man. I think that was a lousy decision. They should have nullified all the decisions done up to that point by unconstitutional single directors and sent HERA back to the drawing board at Congress. Congress should have required an independent commission be created and appointed conservator of a GSE. Imagine if the Commission had to vote on accepting Treasury’s corrupt terms and conditions for its purchase agreements? It would be like just about every other independent agency and would only have needed to be independent when acting as a Conservator.
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clarencebeaks21 clarencebeaks21 19 hours ago
SCOTUS held that the restriction on the President’s power to remove the FHFA Director at 12 USC 4512(b)(2)—commonly referred to as the Removal Clause—violated the constitution. SCOTUS simply severed that offending clause, and let the remainder of HERA stand. So the rest of HERA remains valid law.

See Collins v Yellen pp. 17-36.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-422_k537.pdf
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bradford86 bradford86 19 hours ago
Would like to see this recentl price action post debate continue
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TightCoil TightCoil 20 hours ago
Being is conservatorship doesn't necessarily preclude us from being re-listed,
and see Fan and Fred pps' get back up into pre-conservatorship prices.
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 21 hours ago
this is now permanent conservatorship.. seen too many of these charts, don't work. they can take it down back to $0.40 , this is otc jungle with lots of manipulation. sad.
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 21 hours ago
"HERA was challenged and found to be unconstitutional." that is the first i have heard of. can you cite it?
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 21 hours ago
not a lawyer but chevron case seems important for fannie mae, not exactly sure how
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 21 hours ago
do you even understand? blackstone is buying properties by bidding higher and higher and bumping up rents than individuals buying them.
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tutt1126 tutt1126 22 hours ago
Yes , I meant to say unconstitutional
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NeoSunTzu NeoSunTzu 22 hours ago
I have no idea how this post offended Carlos and his boyfriend ...
I think you mean "unconstitutional," if so, I agree whole-heartedly.
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nagoya1 nagoya1 23 hours ago
The headline is misleading, it only applies for homes that owe the gov for the unpaid property taxes…

Don’t worry, the taxes never disappear. Lol
Fnma
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NeoSunTzu NeoSunTzu 23 hours ago
I think you mean "unconstitutional," if so, I agree whole-heartedly.
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tutt1126 tutt1126 23 hours ago
Property tax is unconditional.
More and more states are planning to abolish property tax.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-curbs-states-property-tax-windfall-2023-05-25/



https://www.governing.com/finance/some-states-are-looking-to-abolish-property-taxes-entirely
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Barron4664 Barron4664 1 day ago
I think there are two concepts at play here that get commingled. First the social safety-net programs that the US has enacted over the years within a framework of a regulated almost free-market capitalism of a constitutional Republic nation. I don’t think most Americans have a problem with safety nets. They speak to the morality of a people willing to provide for the neediest among us. And are generally good government. These programs are the product of both political parties throughout our history. What many people fear is a transformation of our form of Government to some form of authoritarian regime using the tactics of Marxism to bring us “socialism” through the equitable redistribution of wealth from a formerly sovereign people to an authoritative state. Call it what you want. Socialism, communism, fascism. The result is the same for a formerly mostly free society and has been repeated across the globe and throughout time. Always appealing to the sense of victimhood of the masses with equity for all sold through the virtues of “socialism”.
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Barron4664 Barron4664 1 day ago
Guido its ok to disagree. But I feel you commented with your disagreement too early. This post (Post #796755) clearly addressed your reasonings. It was not HERA that caused the problems with fanniegate. If the plain language of HERA was actually followed, the GSEs would be trading as private companies now. It was the corrupt actions of Treasury in their corrupt terms and conditions of their purchase agreement that violates other foundational statutes that are responsible for all the things you stated. The corrupt bureaucrats love nothing better than to have the victims blame the wrong entity for their vial actions. We must focus our resolve on the actual perpetrators of the crimes. Obfuscation and misdirection wrapped in misinformation is the weapons they have used since the beginning. The SPSPA and Treasury’s role in it must be the focus of shareholders to fix this.
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TommyBoyTrader9460 TommyBoyTrader9460 1 day ago
$FNMA
$FNMA Strong move this week puts this chart back in the spotlight..get above the 50 day MA and this could hit a new gear.. pic.twitter.com/vKVSrUPTpc— Chris from Massachusetts AKA TommyboyTrader (@autumnsdad1) June 29, 2024
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 day ago
so you want the GOV - State? Federal ? intervening in a free market ?

I hate what is going on in terms of helping renters - but if the big guys buy them up to rent them out by the week - is that not free market finding the GREATES VALUE which finds the greatest capital for select investments

So so so many hear declare SOCIALISM when a D idea is thought of or presented but is this not evil SOCIALISM with the GOV taking action because some part of the market wants it?

Now - if these companies are monopolies and acting as such that may be a reason and way to have Federal intervention in private markets
But why do so many people yell socialism when there is a program to help low wage people but want GOV to intervene when Big companies drive up costs for middle and upper income
Socialism is Socialism
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 day ago
if --- if - decisions against us were based on the CHEVERON doctrine in the past - then they can go again with a new effort to have SCOTUS look at a case

my memory is SCOTUS did not use CHEVRON to beat us up -- it found other ways
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Viking61 Viking61 1 day ago
Mark had no problem withholding stress tests either.
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RickNagra RickNagra 1 day ago
As a former regulator, I never once had to rely on Chevron, it’s actually not that hard to read the statutes and just simply follow the law— Mark Calabria (@MarkCalabria) June 28, 2024
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 1 day ago
They're still stuck in that time period, praying for hopium.
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basesloaded basesloaded 1 day ago
Navy posted the update but it doesn’t get stickied. I guess the master moderator thinks it’s too political.
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Wise Man Wise Man 1 day ago
Chevron deference is no where to be seen.
What happens is that, instead, a group of scammers are colluding with the Federal Agencies aiming for the sacking of FnF and the assault on the ownership (Common Stock), under the premise that the FHFA can do whatever it wants.
Very different.

The use the judiciary for the conspiracy, because they are unsophisticated lawyers that ignore that a dividend payment is a distribution of Earnings, not interest payments; The definition of capital distribution, even if it's written in the statute FHEFSSA, they just have to peddle that the law is HERA and not the FHEFSSA, so no one can read the definitions:

-"Beneficial to the FHFA", instead of "in the best interests of the FHFA" in order to transmit the idea that the FHFA can take the capital away in Critically Undercapitalized enterprises for its own monetary benefit;

-Omission of requirement that the actions must be "authorized by this section". For that, you have to learn that "put (restore) in a sound condition" is about building capital, and that would be the Retained Earnings account (CET1).

-Cover-up of the Restriction on Capital Distributions; Exceptions: reduce the SPS and, later on, recapitalization outside their balance sheets or, nowadays, CET1 held in escrow (concealed on their balance sheets, with gifted SPS/offset missing)

-Omission that the rehabilitation of a financial company (FHFA-C's Rehab power) is about their financial condition as seen on their Balance Sheets, currently with a whopping $402B core capital shortfall over minimum Leverage capital level, but a CET1 = 2.8% of ATA under the Separate Account plan, enabling the redemption of JPS.

-SPS LP increased for free and its offset, absent from the Balance Sheets (Financial Statement fraud).

-Etc.

DeMarco was the fix-it man that enabled the regulatory framework that made all their actions lawful, so they could continue to peddle their big lies in court and on social media (a Common Equity Sweep carried out by 3 White House administrations. It's illusion because it doesn't exist in reality).
DeMarco understood it right.


With "deference to a Federal Agency", the plotters wanted the courts to twist the law and legalize the unlawful actions, notwithstanding that they are already lawful thanks to DeMarco and the Separate Account plan, and, since yesterday's Supreme Court opinion overruling Chevron, with the "no deference", now they will seek to peddle the idea of "abusive cosservator" that exceeded its powers, for the "blame DeMarco doctrine".
A #SCOTUS decision re #Chevron that establishes deference for administrative action, can't be used in #Fanniegate for the "Blame DeMarco doctrine".
He deliberately enacted the supplemental CFR1237.12,enabling a follow-on Separate Acct plan.#Trump built on it: Gifted SPS(NWS 2.0) https://t.co/9N0M7imwTP— Conservatives against Trump (@CarlosVignote) June 26, 2024

Thank goodness that this attack with the "blame DeMarco doctrine", which is what entire trial in the Lamberth court was about for the fiction of "breach of Implied Contract", was defused before it happens.
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Wise Man Wise Man 1 day ago
If you don't know where "best interests of FHFA" is located, that starts with "actions authorized by this section", you'd better leave the board.
This was omitted by judge Sweeney (CFC), a former DOJ employee, so she read "take any action in the best interests of FHFA", to conclude "the FHFA is the government".
Judge Willett and justice Alito came to the rescue: "any action within the enumerated powers" and the latter, specified "rehabilitate FnF" (its power: Put FnF in a sound and solvent condition), that is, build capital and reduce debentures (ability to pay off debentures) which is perfect to reduce the taxpayer's assistance asap.
Justice Alito added "in a way..." which is suitable for the Separate Account plan. He simply added on his own "beneficial to the FHFA" to play the hedge funds' game of "the money is gone!" for the assault on the ownership by the Preferred Stocks, when the written text states "in the best interests of FHFA" from the regulatory point of view and in relation to the regulated entities it oversees, that is, the FHFA-way. Images posted below.
And ending up with what it isn't written in the text: "...and the public it serves", which can be used arguably by the UST to keep the $10B-$15B in TARP funds owed to FnF for the Making Home Affordable program, and even continue the utilization of FnF for public policies, like currently the sale of loans to women- and minority-owned businesses, etc., to the hedge funds, PIMCO can continue to build a mortgage portfolio at bargain prices, etc.

By the way, it's written in the Incidental Power of the conservator, whose etymological definition, means: actions that help out the main Power. Thus, it has to be some leeway or some very important activity, but always from the regulatory point of view as mentioned before, not to enrich the government, that even may make FnF incur losses (setting up Common Securitization Solutions -50/50 joint venture FnF- and the CSP, cost more than $1B; Delisting of the only bond on the NYSE and build capital in excess with the purpose of the redemption of the JPS (AT1 Capital. CET1 is more quality), prior to the Privatized Housing Financy System revamp chosen by the UST for the release in 2011 -3 options still -, etc.), or increase risks but, under no circumstance, it could be a way to break existing laws, like the Credit Enhancement clause in the Charter Act and the Restriction on Capital Distributions (FHEFSSA, amended by HERA), primarily because a capital distribution means that you are removing capital at a time when the conservator in charged with rehabilitating FnF, thus, that wouldn't be "authorized by this section".

This was explained clearly by the FHFA, with the exact same words, in the preface of the July 20, 2011 Final Rule (image) that enacted the CFR 1237.12 for the follow-on Separate Account plan, in light of the official declaration of capital distribution in the payment of Securities Litigation judgments (CFR 1229.13. Number 3).


A CFR 1237.12 enacted, because the former FHFA Acting Director understood it right. They were assessment sent to UST, 1989 FHLB-style. This is how you can deplete capital in FnF when it's restricted: when you are building it outside the Balance Sheet at the same time: "to meet the Risk-Based Capital requirement and the Minimum Capital Level" (Exception 1. Though 2, 3 and 4 are the same too, as the whole thing "(c) supplements" the restriction by statute U.S. Code 4614(e). Zing! The Incidental Power right there.


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Wise Man Wise Man 1 day ago
When I said that the debate NWS dividend🆚NWS 2.0 (SPS LP increased for free. Image below), is the same Common Equity Sweep, and thus, there are no winners, I wasn't talking about the Presidential debate on Thursday.
It just happens to be the same protagonists:
Letter to Rand Paul: "A sham, scam, a travesty brought to you by the Obama/Biden Administration"🆚the same brought to you by the Trump Administration.
Fannie Mae-No Politics.

Freddie Mac table: gifted SPS and its offset, are absent from the Balance Sheet.
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