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Ardelyx Inc

Ardelyx Inc (ARDX)

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Closed December 22 3:00PM
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ARDX Discussion

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Mr.Mister Mr.Mister 2 days ago
Do you know when CADL's next data readout is? Wasn't clear at all from their last corporate presentation or quarterly report
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 days ago
Yep, I can vouch for your heads up on CADL.  Had to do some reshuffling in a porfolio but picked up shares yesterday when I stopped in a rest area when driving back from Vancouver.  When I saw what it did today I regretted not jettisoning everything in the portfolio and dumping it all onto CADL.  TY 
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oneragman oneragman 3 days ago
Kiwi, I sold the bulk of QUBT today just under $20. I also mentioned CADL to rosemount in the last day or 2. Check it out. Up nicely today, but seriously, it is going to $50 in 25. Just had a successful read out on a P3 that had an SPA with the FDA for prostate cancer. Just completed an offering. The chairman of the board just bought 1.25M shares at $6, so I followed his lead. I haven't had a chance to check out ARDX today. Glad it's up. Still think it's a big winner once we get past CMS.
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Cosa Cosa 3 days ago
I got some Jan 2026 calls the other day. Hopefully it is all figured out by then. Have not added any more shares, I'm good with what I'm holding already.
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 4 days ago
With you Kiwi.  Holding what I have.  They have 2 growing drugs albeit that may slow down dramatically but who knows. 52 week low hopefully we stabilize here. All this crap when I am away from home. Up in BC visiting BIL 
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Whalatane Whalatane 4 days ago
Well so much for my opinion posted earlier , that the probable failure of the Kidney Patient Act to pass this yr , was largely priced in .
I added some at $4.4 and will likely forget about ARDX until next yr

Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 5 days ago
Thanks Raggy, I will check it out.  Hopefully everything bad is now discounted with ARDX
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Whalatane Whalatane 5 days ago
Raggy ...U are making to much $ elsewhere ...I'm thinking of banning U from this board :--)
Congrats on your AI / Quantum picks
I'm in PLTR and SOUN .....but QUBT , QBTS , RGTI ...I looked at and thought " not ready for prime time "...whoa ...did I F that up

Kiwi
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oneragman oneragman 5 days ago
My quantum stocks saved the day from being bad. I do think it reverses rather quickly, but biotech in general is in the crapper. A new position for me is CADL. A patient in my MIL's office works in management. They just hit on a drug that had SPA. Prostate cancer...just had a capital raise after the successful p3, so that's out of the way. Thought you might want to check it out. I will probably selloff some AMRN and move it there. I like the risk reward and they have another readout in 2025.
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 5 days ago
Looks like the market voted today.  Sad day for ARDX
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 6 days ago
Thanks Raggy.  I have seen some people mentioning an omnibus healthcare and negotiations going back and forth but haven't seen that they were ready to include the KPA.  Few days left and i am resigning myself to it not getting enacted.  Just hoping that not too much is built in into the stock price at this point.  I would rather hang on to the stock. 
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oneragman oneragman 6 days ago
rosemount, it looks like some omnibus healthcare bill is going to be passed in the next few day. The question is does the KPA get included in it. As of this writing, it's not listed, but if it gets on and passes, ARDX will fly.
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 1 week ago
Picked up another co-sponsor yesterday, up to 44 right now. Unfortunately time running out. Majority leader Schumer yesterday stated that he will bring up another piece of legislation I am interested in up for a vote before the end of the year (SS Fairness Act) but no news concerning the Kidney Act.
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Whalatane Whalatane 2 weeks ago
Hello Nephrology article yesterday

Phosphate binder rule is disease-specific discrimination

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In April, CMS issued guidance for the inclusion of oral-only drugs in the end-stage renal disease bundled payment. The directive included Xphozah as a renal dialysis service.

Xphozah, (tenapanor, Ardelyx) is a first-in-class phosphate absorption inhibitor approved to lower serum phosphorus levels for adults on dialysis. CMS intends to include the agent in the ESRD prospective payment system effective Jan. 1, 2025, but unlike calcimimetics and phosphate binders, tenapanor will have its own transitional drug add-on payment adjustment (TDAPA) and be excluded in the calculation for a permanent add-on payment. Under this guidance, tenapanor will be moved from Medicare Part D to Part B, and Part D pharmacies will no longer be allowed to fill prescriptions to Medicare ESRD beneficiaries.

Premila Bhat, MD, FASN, AHSCP-CHS, and J. Ganesh Bhat, MD, FASN
Tenapanor in phosphate control
Hyperphosphatemia and metabolic bone disease are the most challenging clinical issues facing nephrologists who treat patients on dialysis. Phosphates are ubiquitous in the diet, and normal kidneys excrete most of the phosphates absorbed from the gut. With the decline of kidney function, phosphates accumulate in the blood, leading to secondary hyperparathyroidism and metabolic bone disease.

Since dialysis became a routine procedure for patients with ESRD, traditional management of elevated phosphorus has been through oral drugs that bind phosphates and prevent absorption. Aluminum hydroxide gel and calcium-containing compounds, such as calcium acetate or citrate, were the mainstay for controlling hyperphosphatemia in dialysis. Aluminum toxicity and concerns about calcium burden led to the introduction of other phosphate binders, such as sevelamer carbonate, sevelamer hydrochloride, lanthanum carbonate and iron-based phosphate binders.

Premila Bhat, MD, FASN, AHSCP-CHS
Premila Bhat
J. Ganesh Bhat, MD, FASN
J. Ganesh Bhat
Dietary restriction and dialysis using currently available dialyzer membranes alone are insufficient to maintain phosphate balance; hence, there is a need to bind phosphate in the gut to prevent absorption. Compliance with conventional phosphate binder therapy is difficult and directly attributable to the “pill burden” and need to take the medication with or soon after meals multiple times a day. Gastrointestinal adverse events and intolerance to the binders further complicate the matter.

Many patients on dialysis cannot maintain a serum phosphorus level between 3.5 mg/dL and 5.5 mg/dL even when using medications to manage the condition. The addition of tenapanor as an add-on therapy for patients who have an inadequate response to phosphate binders or intolerance to any dose of phosphate binder would make these goals easier to achieve and prevent complications due to secondary hyperparathyroidism.

Legal action
In July, Ardelyx started legal action arguing that CMS did not have the authority to include oral-only drugs, such as phosphate binders and phosphate absorption inhibitors, in the bundled payment system. From a mechanism-of-action point of view, Ardelyx argued, these drugs should not be labeled as renal dialysis services because the drugs are not administered either orally or parenterally during dialysis treatment, and a parenteral form of phosphate binder or absorption inhibitor is unlikely to be developed.

The judge dismissed the case on Nov. 8. CMS will move the drug from Medicare Part D to Part B as planned on Jan. 1, 2025. Ardelyx has yet to accede to CMS’s request for it to apply for a Healthcare Common Procedure Coding System code and TDAPA status, leaving dialysis providers with no clear pathway to be reimbursed.

CMS stated that moving phosphate binders from Medicare Part D to Part B improves beneficiary access to these medications. Medicare Part D enrollment among patients with ESRD had increased to almost 80% in 2021, and twice as many patients with ESRD qualify for low-income subsidies as those without ESRD. Medicare seeks to improve access to these drugs to all patients with ESRD under Part B, and moving phosphate binders to Part B from Part D would have a negligible impact on access to these drugs. However, this change would burden dialysis providers to procure the drugs be the gatekeeper, keeping an eye on the cost.

Equity in ESRD
ESRD is one of the clearest examples of racial and ethnic disparity in health care in the United States. Black and Latino patients are affected by ESRD four times and 1.3 times more, respectively, than white patients. Furthermore, poverty, as measured by dual eligibility status and low-income subsidies, makes ESRD the poster child for disparity in health care in the country. Since the introduction of the ESRD bundle, CMS has experimented with ineffective ideas, such as TDAPA and transitional add-on payment adjustment for new and innovative equipment and supplies (TPNIES) and mandatory ESRD Treatment Choices model, which have an enormous and often negative impact on the lives of patients with ESRD.

Under the current method used by CMS, innovative drugs and technologies are less attractive to innovators and investors, limiting access of patients with ESRD to the advantage of these drugs and technologies in stark contrast to patients who have cancer or heart disease.

For example, Korsuva (difelikefalin, Cara Therapeutics) is a novel anti-pruritic drug that could have treated severe itching for one of six patients on hemodialysis. After the TDAPA period for the drug ended, CMS adopted a 3-year adjustment that spread the cost of it across all Medicare treatments. To recover the cost of providing the drug to a single patient, a facility would have to treat hundreds of patients who do not require it. No facility has a sufficient patient population to make that equation work. Consequently, only a fraction of patients who would have benefited from the drug are now receiving it, and its future availability remains uncertain.

Under the current bundled payment and drug designation process, CMS has reinforced systematic discrimination against patients with ESRD that the administration has indicated it seeks to end. The current system stifles innovation and puts the financial burden on dialysis providers to bear the full cost of providing these expensive drugs and technologies to patients without adequate reimbursement.

Patients with ESRD are discriminated against with regard to access to novel therapeutics, devices and diagnostics compared with their peers without ESRD. Oncology, cardiology, diabetes and patients with other rare diseases enjoy a rich innovation pipeline due to a reimbursement system that rewards companies for innovating in these therapeutic areas. It is time for Congress and other policymakers to revisit how innovation is sustainably paid for in ESRD to ensure brave patients are not left behind.

For more information:
Premila Bhat, MD, FASN, AHSCP-CHS, is CEO of Tidal Home Dialysis LLC, and a partner at NY Kidney Hypertension Medicine in Ridgewood, New York. She can be reached at pbhat@atlanticdialysis.com.
J. Ganesh Bhat, MD, FASN, is a principal at Atlantic Dialysis Management Services LLC, in College Point, New York. He can be reached at jbhat@atlanticdialysis.com.
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Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 2 weeks ago
RMB Most of my investing interest is around applications of AI and how that may drive productivity ....That theme ...AI increasing productivity is whats driving PLTR , APP, SOUN , AMZN etc . I use wide stops for risk management ...as example I am prepared to allow these to drop 20% before I'll sell half and then spend some serious time trying to decide to sell the remainder or reinvest when what ever has caused the sell off, pass's.
I try to avoid trading for short term profits .
I tend to " sell the news " tho on biotech ...and that might apply to ARDX IF the Kidney Patient Act were to pass this yr.
EWTX is due to release some P 2 data ...will probably sell that depending on how it trades on the data .
Good luck
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 2 weeks ago
Those tech stocks of yours have been roaring this week.  Like I may have mentioned I did make a little coin twice in PLTR and would re-enter on a pull back but they all seem at sky high valuations right now.  Of course we know the market can stay irrational longer than I can stay solvent.  Longer term not all those companies in those industries will thrive but for the time being investors are betting on all of them. Of course you have got plenty of profit in them and I know you wisely use money management and cull profits when appropriate.  Today I have been shopping buying oil stocks where there is blood in the streets.  Eventually they will revert and in the meantime I can collect divs. Thanks for news on ARDX and UNCY. 
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Whalatane Whalatane 2 weeks ago
OT. RMB just an FYI . I'm heavily in Tech . I have positions in ARDX, UNCY , VERA , RZLT etc because my wife prescribes to these patients .
But my biggest positions by far are in Tech ...... AMZN , PLTR , APP , SOUN etc and some tech funds like FSELX , FSCSX .
I'll update ARDX and UNCY whenever I see developments
Good luck
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 2 weeks ago
Thanks.  Seems to be buoying up the sp
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Whalatane Whalatane 2 weeks ago
I think theres a new co sponsor in the Senate plus X in Japan is now around 10% of all serum pho lowering drugs for dialysis patients ( from a quick scan of the ARDX twitter feed )
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 2 weeks ago
If it doesn't pass it is a crying shame.  Something I believe the vast majority of the population would approve of.  
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 2 weeks ago
Yep, my take as well.  That is why I questioned those rejected scripts since they sounded like they would have absorbed cost.  This is out there so I would hope that it is priced in but you know when news story comes out there is a knee jerk reaction.  Or sometimes after the stock moves one way or another then they write the story offering up reasons 
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Whalatane Whalatane 2 weeks ago
RMB. listened to most of presentation .
Passage of the KP Act looks unlikely this yr . Reconsideration by Judge a long shot . Will provide free Xphozah where needed and write off as a marketing expense .
Ibsrela doing well but still 2nd line therapy . No decision in China till 2025 .
Overall pretty negative / cautious . Question is has market priced all this in .
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
You are correct that there was no mention of the drug being overpriced.  
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
RMB. I believe the scripts are monthly . Nephrologists and pharmacies want to make certain these patients have some pho lowering med waiting for them Jan 1st
They are not inclined to mess with patient assist programs for Medicare patients in this instance . They are overwhelmed already and are frustrated by the hurdles they have to jump over just to get the patient the best meds available. These patients are on multiple meds .

Yes Nephrologists are very frustrated with the changes set to take place . Initially it will make their jobs harder . Longer term it may mean better patient management but only if they have access to the best drugs available ...at co pay prices patients can afford.

Nephrologists may be p'd at the system ...they also think ARDX is ripping off dialysis patients and the Medicare system by over charging for Xphozah ...compared to what they charge per gm for Ibresla ( its the same drug )

Guess they didn't mention that at the fireside chat

Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
Kiwi, I have a question for you. I listened to most of the fireside chat today with Piper Sandler. Overall I thought they were hopeful but slightly resigned to the chance that the KPA does not pass before the end of the year. And discussing the "what if it doesn't pass", they kept emphasizing that they wanted to make sure the patient had access no matter what. I think they called it "patient assist" or something like that. They indicated that they would subside the cost for the patient if need be (the finance guy said it would go to SGA when questioned about how it would affect Q1 revenue).

So my thoughts drifted to your commentary the other day relating the experience of your wife and those denied scripts. Did no one contact Ardelyx to have them assist with getting those scripts? That is what they are saying in all these conferences that they will make sure patients still get their meds. Side note, there was a mention that nephrologists are apoplectic concerning all these rules going into play on Jan. 1.
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
I'm hanging in there mainly because of this
Thursday, November 14, 2024 7:00:26 PM
Post# of 1717
Ardelyx Insider Bought Shares Worth $996,598, According to a Recent SEC Filing
MT Newswires

He's the Chairman of the BOD so eventually I'm guessing , at least a deal will be worked out

Now if Denner did this I might buy back into AMRN. :---)

Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
Yeah this is crazy.  Between the scripts being denied and Ernie reminding me of the gooberment, I lightened up the other day. 43 sponsors.  Heck my SS Fairness Act has 330 sponsors and still waiting for the Senate to act.  SMH. 
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
3 new co sponsors ( 1 is Republican ) for the Kidney Patient Act . Total of 43 cosponsors now . An informed opinion I'd read on these bills is that you need at least 50 co sponsors to tilt the scales towards passing the Act
Still about a week and a half before they shut down for the yr
Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
More info on the 2 yr TDAPA process and the 3 yrs follow on

CMS is currently considering a modification in its bundle incorporation process for those products placed in an existing functional category after completion of the TDAPA period.
Following the 2 years of TDAPA, CMS proposed a 3-year add on payment at 65% of expenditure levels for these products. This incorporation adjustment was limited as CMS argued that existing dollars in the bundle are associated with the treatment of these conditions.

Some stakeholders have countered that the 35% reduction is arbitrary, does not consider competitive dynamics, and does not reward innovative products.

Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Cosa ...method of use patents
April 10, 2034
Patent use: TREATMENT OF HYPERPHOSPHATEMIA

April 10, 2034
Patent use: REDUCTION OF SERUM PHOSPHORUS IN ADULTS

What I meant about competing with generics if Xphozah is included in the dialysis bundle as its currently planned .

The dialysis bundle CAPS the payment for each dialysis session IIRC to about $270 . This includes everything involved .
Currently Xphozah is billed separately .
If ARDX enters the TDAPA process Xphozah will be covered as it now is ....as an additional payment for 2 yrs .
For 3 yrs following that CMS will adjust ( I assume downwards ) the price they will pay separately for Xphozah .

After 5 yrs there will be no extra payments for Xphozah . Xphozah will need to be paid for out of the payment per dialysis ...currently around $270 .
There is not enough money to pay for everything involved with a dialysis session AND pay for Xphozah at anywhere near its current ( roughly ) $3,100 a month cost .
Patients will be forced back on generic pho lowering drugs which are very cheap ....although 40 % of the dialysis population never get to serum pho goal using them and most patients hate them .
( by the way this is starting to happen already since at present Xphozah won't be available to Medicare dialysis patients Jan 1 . New Xphozah scripts are being denied and replaced by generic Renvela )

ALSO. the way the dialysis bundle works ...dialysis providers get to keep any $ left over between what CMS pays them per session ...and what it costs them per session . So theres a financial incentive already to prescribe cheap less effective generics

Kiwi
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Cosa Cosa 3 weeks ago
Does drug exclusivity get extended when the FDA approves it for different use case? Xphozah has patent expiry 2034 from my understanding.
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Some speculation by Rose Han on X that there is motivation to deal with things like the Kidney Patient Act before Trump takes over
Tax news ...Senate and house now in session
House Ways & Means Chairman Jason Smith (R-MO) said on Fox News November 21, "We need to take numerous things off of the desk so that President Trump doesn't have to deal with that whenever we come to Washington, DC. One thing that we'll make sure is that government funding is taken care of appropriately. However, there are so many items that are left on the table that President Trump should not have to inherit whenever he becomes president on January 20." The interview addressed year-end items like disaster relief and deadlines for telehealth coverage, Medicaid cuts, and Medicare physician payments.

Kiwi
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ErnieBilco ErnieBilco 3 weeks ago
Good the know I'm not the only one, and having your wife who is much more adept in this use of the drug puts a lot of weight into her agreement on Raab.

I do feel bad for those medicare patients who responded well to X being thrown off of it. I'm thinking that this could actually be a gigantic gift to UNCY, I could be wrong as I often am but I would rather put my money on UNCY at its level rather than ARDX.

Time will tell as with any investment.
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Ernie ...my wife certainly agrees with your views on the Ceo and the pricing of Xphozah .
It's way over priced per gm relative to Ibsrela ( it's the same drug ) ......and because they reject the CMS plan to include them in the dialysis bundle ( which means they would have to compete with generic pricing in 5 yrs ) ...Medicare patients lose access to it Jan 1 .

Its unrealistic for CMS to think any Co will develop new meds if they have to compete with generics in 5 yrs .
Its also unrealistic to think CMS will happily over pay for a drug thats been used by a different patient population for roughly 1/3rd the cost ARDX wants to charge the dialysis patients

So theres a standoff and currently the losers are the Medicare dialysis patients who want this drug .

Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
Yep, so too many unknowns here for me that I am lightening up this morning - sure I will regret it. Will they negotiate with Medicare? Will the judge turn down their appeal? Will the gooberment (as Ernie says) screw them or pass the thing?
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ErnieBilco ErnieBilco 3 weeks ago
Kiwi, Since you ask I am playing it the same way I have since I sold out. I have my buy orders set from $2 and lower, with the info about scripts it now has a more likely chance of hitting at least one of my orders if the situation spreads and more scripts are non-renewed. From my point of view it is never a good idea to depend on what the gooberment will or will not do, too many competing money grubbers work up their on the hill who put personal fortune above their actual jobs.

I made it pretty clear that I did not agree with Raab and his board when they priced X and the reason I left when I did. You sir are much more tuned into the company, product and people at ARDX, I on the other hand can only use my feelings based on info I can gather from others and reports. I do not like any CEO who feels entitled to $146K a month (what he generally sells per month) but hey that is just my frugalness showing.

Hopefully, I'm wrong for everyone who holds ARDX's sake - Time will tell and it will probably tell sooner rather than later. Very important to watch what the tutes do from here on out.

FYI - my buys were put in wayyyy back when I sold out and see no reason to move them at this point.
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
Gonna have to do some thinking on this.  If I come up with decent ideas I will post
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Re. " how widespread this info is "
U are reading it here first
Wife wrote 2 scripts for Xphozah today....Dec 2 nd ...both declined because ( reason given for decline ) drug will not be available Jan 1
Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Yep I'm trying to work out how to trade it also .
Xphozah scripts on a mthly basis for Medicare dialysis patients will probably plunge ...based on the front line ( dialysis clinic ) info I'm aware of .
Being unable to renew scripts should create a reaction from Nephrologists and patients in support of the Kidney Patient Act .
If the Act pass's by being added to some end of year Govt funding legislation ...ARDX and UNCY should jump .
If it doesnt pass then ARDX is in trouble until they work out a compromise with CMS .
Open to any ideas on how to trade this
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
As of Dec. 1, on Congress.gov Kidney Act bill is #6 as far as most viewed. Not much time left but not that many bills having more interest so hopefully, those senators do something more than just talk.

https://www.congress.gov/most-viewed-bills
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
Kiwi, wondering how widespread this info is.  I am up on this trade and beginning to wonder if I need to sell out.  If I was sure they would pass the Kidney Act, I would be willing to hold, but can't find an oracle nearby.  
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Now Ernie ...you seem like a guy who can " game " this situation .
Reports from the front line ....some pharmacies , dialysis centers refusing to refill Xphozah scripts since it won't be available ( currently ) Jan 1 .
How would you play ARDX with this ? Info is accurate .
Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
It applies to all Medicare scripts for Xphozah which I think is mainly 1 mth scripts.
So Medicare patients on Xphozah are being told their script can not be renewed ...at least at the dialysis center my wife was at today .
Patients are redirected to Renvela .
So obviously the patients on X and the Nephrologists and their PA's that have been prescribing X ....and getting some of these patients to serum pho goals for the first time ever ...are pissed.
They don't want to go back to Renvela ( large pills and many of them each meal )
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 3 weeks ago
I guess those scripts must have for more than 30 days.  Still sucks, bunch of crooks. 
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
FYI. Wife reports her dialysis centers will no longer accept Xphozah scripts for Medicare patients . Two scripts she wrote today were rejected on the basis of the drug not being available Jan 1
Kiwi
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Whalatane Whalatane 3 weeks ago
Ernie ...well specific to oral pho meds for dialysis patients . No company IMHO is going to go thru the time and expense of running clinical trials to get a new oral pho drug approved if they are forced to compete with generics 5 yrs after starting the TDAPA process for Medicare reimbursement ...2 yrs in TDAPA and then 3 yrs in price adjustments ( I assume declining prices )
They won't recoup their costs in that time .
Its rare for Co's to even breakeven in the first 2 yrs due to launch / marketing etc expenses .

Is Xphozah over priced per gm relative to Ibresla ....yes ...it's the same drug Tenapanor . Hopefully ARDX and CMS will negotiate over this ....ie longer time period before competing with generics in exchange for a lower price

Kiwi
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ErnieBilco ErnieBilco 3 weeks ago
Now why would Big Pharma not be interested in PRICE NEGOTIATIONS with the largest user of medicine???? PROFIT AND PRICE GOUGING?

Time for patients and the gooberment to come 1st in America NOT Big Pharma.

I say every drug should be on the list for PRICE NEGOTIATION - Why should Americans pay more than the rest of the world? It's like we're kickin ourselves in the azz and wondering why we can sit down.
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Whalatane Whalatane 4 weeks ago
Well this would certainly help ARDX they are pushing to delay the timeline under which medications become eligible for price negotiations by four years for small molecule drugs, which are primarily pills
Currently if they started TDAPA they would have 2 yrs and then the price adjusting down for the following 3 yrs before competing with generics
So extending that 2yrs to 4 yrs ( or the original 2 yrs plus an additional 4 yrs ) before price adjustment , would be a huge win for them
JMO
Looks like a big buy at the close
Kiwi
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rosemountbomber rosemountbomber 4 weeks ago
Not sure if this article had anything to do with the good showing today. Trying to get the new team to delay the price negotiations with Medicare:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/big-pharma-pushes-trump-team-ease-medicare-drug-price-negotiation-rules-2024-11-27/
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Whalatane Whalatane 4 weeks ago
ARDX filed for relief of judgement .... to stop Oral pho drugs in dialysis bundle on Jan1 st
CMS responded and asked court for extension into Dec to reply . Extension granted to Dec 13th I think

Nov 25th PDF's
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MVcOMXEQnm3uVwtEX09shUzPE9zow4fW

Kiwi
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