iateclube
13 hours ago
I do not know what need there is for anything BMG out of Valencia Circle, they produce nothing, sell nothing, aren't even receiving relevant fees/royalties. I can see where the Japanese golf club play might support a partnership of convenience to common shareholders. Okay, that has potential, even for the US market. However it is curious that LL is willing to part with a lot of shares if underwritten by his minimum 16 cents. Maybe that gives him a little more distance from his historic conflict of interest issues. What I do not see is any bent for making money out of the EONTEC 'agreements', Yihao, and the maze.
iateclube
13 hours ago
I do not know what need there is for anything BMG out of Valencia Circle, they produce nothing, sell nothing, aren't even receiving relevant fees/royalties. I can see where the Japanese golf club play might support a partnership of convenience to common shareholders. Okay, that has potential, even for the US market. However it is curious that LL is willing to part with a lot of shares if underwritten by his minimum 16 cents. Maybe that gives him a little more distance from his historic conflict of interest issues. What I do not see is any bent for making money out of the EONTEC 'agreements', Yihao, and the maze.
Researchfyi
2 days ago
.48 cents up in pre split share price is about a 3 cents gain. A 10% gain either way for the day. There have been many 10% daily gains as well as 10% daily losses.
You haven’t missed anything. It will take a 300% gain to get back to around the share price where many first bought in and perhaps averaged as the share price tanked to around a quarter a share. The $4 dollar share price is at or near the 52 week lows.
I don’t see it moving much to the upside without FDA approval or unless they can pull that rabbit out of their hat with a solid sales report on the 2nd rollout beginning on September 17. The price can start drifting down .30, .40 or as much as .50 cents based on their 10Q3 and if there are more delays.
By now one would think the FDA does not need to ask for more data, when the ring company submits the information already requested. The way the ring company has been talking it doesn’t look like the FDA is requesting more trials which would really send the stock further south of their lows, but rather the accuracy of how the technology is going to work equally across genders and race and age etc.
Each time I read spin from the ring company, the attitude has always been; Don’t worry we’ve got this! Then all of a sudden they got donkey dust. And then the share price appropriately declines.
Let’s face it if people were basing and betting on the share price to go up just on beating out the already sophisticated competition. I can only conclude they did not do their DD. If you go back to the beginning the goal was FDA. Approval. It is what their team is built on. Everyone must know that by now, otherwise the share price would be trading around $60 dollars a share without FDA approval.
And when many bought in around .80 cents it would be trading around $12 dollars a share on the same premise without the split.
Two things are very clear about this company right now. The stock is very cheap and they are banking on FDA approval. From that point on will depend on how fast and how many B2B contracts they can line up. Then and only then might they be a real player in the B2C. Otherwise imo, they are toast.
The B2B could send their market cap above $500 million. Thus affording them cash to R&D a glucose ring monitor, and blood pressure monitor, which would keep them ahead of the competition and even without those two, attract a buyer for the company.
The bottom line… you have not missed out on this opportunity. It’s not a scam. And the risk is lower than most startups. Plus it is trading at its lows. Yes in the interim the share price can go lower. That is the present direction it will go based on FDA delays. Not so much on any sales data.
That data right now is more important to LQMT to keep their BS spin going of insignificant growth. While I the share price sits on a toilet sink behind a bathroom stall. TC doesn’t know how to sheet or get off the pot.
Getting back to the ring company. FDA approval will pop the stock. It will give them credibility. That factor has not been factored in yet. But the first B2B contracts with hospitals and insurers will rocket the share price up. That’s when the importance of sales data becomes the only factor investors will look at when investing.
$4 dollars a share looks tempting. I’ll wait for FDA approval.
Researchfyi
4 days ago
Thank you for refocusing my attention to domestic manufacturing.
I remember back in 2023 , TC critiquing shareholders, LQMT did not need to have domestic manufacturing, when discussing the 2022 end of year one way call. In many of my posts I stated repeatedly LQMT needs domestic manufacturing high volume capacity. Fast forward a year later and TC has change his tune.
I believe whatever integrity TC has left will end this year. He outlined a plan for two more deals. He has had years to achieve. LQMT is in its 34th consecutive month without an 8K deal, with two announcements spelling nothing out as to how revenues are to be received in manufacturing.
If you are getting cash that impacts the sp significantly they have to share it in an 8K.
So far the $$$ are insignificant.
And thank you for your analysis. Like riding a merry go round. We have traveled great distances and have gone nowhere.
Perhaps EV’s can use amorphous metal. Would have been nicer if those TPG’s had a buyer. Now there’s a product that all auto vehicles could use. Gas, hybrid or electric.
Good luck to you.
bobroo
4 days ago
I know a lot of people are anxious for FDA approval the Evie Ring. To them I say look how long it took for LQMT to attain ISO certification, it was over 2 years. And, quite similarly to Movano; when we were told of the endeavor, our CEO Bruce Bromage made it sound like it was just around the corner; we just had to have this meeting and we just had to show this compliancy. Very, very similar verbiage to Movanos first press release about gaining FDA approval for the ring.
There is also one of us who is concerned about LQMT side plays today. So for @Researchfyi benefit, allow me to refocus his attention on a happier time for LQMT side plays.....last January.
An old ally of LQMT is Materion for about 10 years now. You could buy a NYSE share of MTRN for $35-36 when they announced they were putting LM 105 and LM 106 in their catalog and (stay with us here @Researchfyi, don't loose faith just quite yet) train their sales force on BMGs. Today it trades just north of $100. Lugee Li and Joshua put the kibosh on LQMT being connected to US manufacturing, that is until last January....
https://www.materion.com/en/about-materion/news/beryllium-and-composites/materion-enters-into-strategic-partnership
And, how crazy is this? We got a second LQMT press release on the same day; one that included clarity and further explanation:
https://www.materion.com/en/about-materion/news/beryllium-and-composites/shapeshifting-the-market-for-amorphous-metals
Like I keep pounding into you guys, you can tell LQMTs future by looking at its past. We keep hearing the same stories over and over again. Sometimes the names change, such as FDA approval for ISO approval. Or, Materion being a near mirror image of its predecessor Engle. And there are times the characters keep reappearing such as Tony Chung. And in this Materion case, the return of Barney Visser. I think golf clubs is very familiar to us all, isn't it? If you hang around long enough here, you too will see that everything LQMT is all too familiar.
iateclube
5 days ago
Makes perfect sense to me, and connects all the dots, indeed. In fact, I could see some of us trying to work it out, but you have as usual spelled it out neatly. Yes, it is speculation, but that is what we are left with in the absence of transparency from Valencia Circle or Hong Kong. Or Japan. Anyway, a refreshing break from having to be hog tied and muted by that absence. Enjoy.
Researchfyi
5 days ago
Another week passes and LQMT’s share price is down 4.33% from 0.04865 cents to 0.04654 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.
LQMT has established two new sources of income this year. The ring company and the MIM order not yet reported.
So here’s one of the thoughts as described. It’s not going to sound like me. Let’s just say I visited la la land & the land of Oz and like Dorothy, my forehead feels warm and I am probably running a fever. I give no further explanation for it and will not provide links or names. Although if I wanted to, I could provide dots and dashes and a brand new maze. But I think I will leave that to the great speculators and theorists who have gone onto other boards in the land of Oz.
So here goes…and please don’t shoot the messenger and no there was no indication that Apple was involved with the unnamed company in this post. Nor did I ask or would ask. You have to have some sense and respect not to.
A certain party, which I will not name possibly believes they can incorporate amorphous metal, into products they would like to sell. Like the kind that LL can make, the kind that involves LQMT IP. However, they want to make $$$, lots of $$$ and who does not? And they can incorporate it into CE and other products they now make, which can be sold to millions all over the globe. Not just in China. So obviously, They want a piece of the LQMT pie at a very cheap price. Why?
Selling their products to a limited portion of the global market, benefits just that part of the globe. But selling to the entire global marketplace is huge for them and all other companies associated as in LQMT.
But if they go to buy that LQMT pie on the open market, they will be paying too much for it. Much more than the 0.16 cents a share. Enter LL. They can afford to lose the money loaned to them for two years and they are banking that they can afford to pay off the promissory note as well. And that’s where LL comes in. He has the shares to sell at 0.016 cents each and loses nothing on the deal. And 45% of his investment is made whole if the deal falls through or he simply takes back his shares or goes to court or both. Remember there are no guarantees.
At the same time if the deal is a success and the products are selling to millions of people all over the globe. (And get this many of these consumers can buy two different products sold by the same company.) Not only does the company selling their products with amorphous metal make money, but the shares that they now own in LQMT rises at a very fast pace and quadruples very quickly and doubles again and again. A new whale is possibly born.
The positive impact on the off market stock as well as the shares held by outsiders can be tremendous. Not only that, but the off market shares held after one year or sooner with an exemption can be converted to non restrictive shares and sold on the open market via brokers and the MM’s., as per the agreement. Including LL’s shares. He too can convert his shares as well if he wants too. Or even buy back the ones he sold or buy more shares himself.
Of course there are other companies using their own formula and design for amorphous metal and other materials. But this group desires the IP of LL & LQMT.
There are some ??? Still waiting for an answer.
Sounds far fetched, right? Like the material, I’ll admit it is a stretch of the imagination.
But now that I am out of the land of Oz and back in Kansas, remember; My opinions are always worth less than the price of a LQMT share.
But, also remember, whose opinions have been closer to 0.02 cents and whose have been closer to a dollar?
As always do your own DD before investing.
In doing DD on the off market transaction you will encounter some sketchy characters.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck. Wish AP & LL luck too.
Who knows? Maybe some crumbs just might fall off of the table.
iateclube
6 days ago
If they are r-splitting into good news (i.e., FDA approval) it can be a positive. If not and they are just fishing for higher end buyers, shorts will have new downside to ride all the way back down. Wash, rinse, repeat. It seems to me the FDA approval is not on the cusp of unfolding, so the timing suggests to me they are fishing.
bobroo
6 days ago
I do expect we hear some news from TC soon about the 28 million transaction, but have no idea if it will be related to Apple.
As a side note, those who condemn someone for critiquing the negative and unfounded claims of a post, should take a dose of their own medicine and stop trying to act as the righteous one. It just makes them look foolish and non credible.
What we all would like to see is LQMT response or acknowledgment of the deal with Movano. Yeah, so far there has been no press release, contract details, or other pen to paper official word about those Evie Rings. And also yeah, if our CEO and largest shareholder has signed some contract for him to sell a substantial part of his ownership interest, I too think that deserves to be addressed in a way other than a SEC filing made at midnight. But guess what? It will never happen because we are never going to hear from Lugee Li ever again.
Speaking of press releases... On January 19, 2022 LQMT issued a press release about getting into a contract with Yihao. They boasted about Yihao's 90 BMG machine strong capabilities. What a big and capable company Yihao is. And...get this....disclosed that LQMT has done business with Yihao for years previously. So to use the words of a little old lady from a Wendy's commercial Where's the beef???
I understand feelings can be hurt when when long time investors with tiki torches and pitch forks bring up the past and use it as an explanation for the future, And, their argument is poignant because those past facts are not only true but show more effort than the company makes itself. I think it is important for new interested parties to hear about the past because it is relevant. And, just maybe it prevents them from leapfrogging from one LQMT innuendo to the next.
And speaking about the past....we need to discuss the last time LQMT was involved with golf clubs and exactly how did that go? There is a big question in my mind, but I need to get the facts straight. It's not that golf clubs were produced for two or three years and were profitable. It's that they were discontinued after the PGA said they were not allowed in their tournaments. And, that the BMG part of the clubs was really a spray on coating and that coating business was sold off soon after to that other LQMT....Liquidmetal Florida. Which still exists if I am not mistaken. Now listen, I need to make sure I am remembering this all correctly but the big question I have is Does Anthony Pong know about the coating aspect to the golf clubs and is he aware that Liquidmetal Florida is/was a completely different outfit?
Almosthere
6 days ago
From Joshua:
“EONTEC Q&A related to LQMT
Secretary Dong,
Does your company have any cooperation with Apple?
In addition, does LQMT have any cooperation with Apple related to four-fold mobile phones?
Hello! Thank you for your interest in the company.
For specific customer information about cooperation, please refer to the main business analysis in the management discussion and analysis chapter of the company's periodic reports.
Thanks!”
I do expect we hear some news from TC soon about the 28 million transaction, but have no idea if it will be related to Apple.
As a side note, those who condemn someone for critiquing the negative and unfounded claims of a post, should take a dose of their own medicine and stop trying to act as the righteous one. It just makes them look foolish and non credible.
Researchfyi
7 days ago
When giddy hopes and hype and great finds of theories and (. . . .s & - - - -s) dots & dashes turn out to be a a nickel or less and not 0.44 cents and higher.
Rather than not being able to focus on the facts of the company’s performance and dealing with the truth of what has taken place historically or otherwise. There is a tendency for a few, very few to take out those frustrations and anger with their own failures for investing in LQMT to attack any poster trying to voice an opinion of truth.
Case in point. bobroo’s post and the immediate reply received.
Everyone should be able to post their opinion of the facts without ever being asked to leave as a way of discussing an opinion.
At best, it is a very immature and childish way to blame others for their own failures. IMO.
It’s how dictators behave. Zero tolerance for an opinion, which they don’t agree with.
It’s very obvious and no one should ever be asked or told to leave for focusing on the facts or their opinions of those who operate the company.
Anyone who has invested has a right to express an opinion. Just as others who think more news is coming forward on the recent off market transactions without a link or shred of evidence to back those opinions up.
And the facts are, LQMT has a stated policy, whereby they do not make a follow up opinion on what they do unless required by law. To state otherwise is just another opinion not based on fact.
IMO, if posters focused more on the company and less on the posters and held LQMT accountable, maybe LQMT could use a change in management.
I mean, what the heck, just who the hell in their right mind is happy with a nickel or Less a share or for that matter a quarter a share?
After 8 years of LL or a few years of TC? Seriously?
Good luck to all in LQMT
Wish TC luck.
bobroo
7 days ago
A "false loss" when Lugee Li exits stage left: Yihao.
You may have trouble remembering Dongguan Yihao Metal Technology, they were the company with the 200,000 sq manufacturing facility. A reported over 100 BMG manufacturing machines that with each BMG part that would drop off its conveyor belt would be just like dropping dollars into the coffers of LQMT. Of course Yihao is ever so closely associated with Eontec, just ask Joshua; he'll tell you everything you want to hear.
When Lugee Li receives his paycheck in 3 years and walks away from LQMT with zero accountability of zero results for his time here, it will your turn Anthony Pong to cook up some new snake oil for LQMT shareholders to buy into. Not to worry Mr Pong, LQMT shareholders have a short memory; all this Yihao BS was from slightly less than 2 years ago. And, why you turning back the clock to golf clubs is brilliant.