Liquidmetal Technologies Inc (QB) (LQMT) Share Price

Thats two questions you are waiting for an answer within seven days.

I too would would love to see the standard 6% fee even if it is $600,000.00 on $10,000,000.00.

Just to give anyone who believes differently a way ouI I believe the confusion with anyone who thinks differently, believes the change in technology does not apply to the agreements with possibly the new technology developed by LQMT.

That is because a few forget that all technology developed by LQMT is included in the agreement and must be shared with Apple and cannot be used for CE by LQMT. Any new technology that LQMT claims is theirs, belongs to Apple for CE use!

Other than that good luck waiting for those explanations.

Good luck to you.

My understanding is that Apple has dibs on the technology developed through 2016 and any developments since 2016 would fall outside. If Apple wants access to these developments….they are open to negotiation.


Most of the process optimization is post 2016 and those developments relate to fine tuning manufacturing and enhancing profitability.

Some still don’t get it and never will. If Apple decides to manufacture parts through our partners using liquidmetal, anything sold our territories will mean revenue for lqmt USA. 99 percent if investors who have cognitive skills understand this.

Good luck to all true longs.

Nothing accusative …mostly clarifications on 10Qs.

RSuave25020, thank you again for your heads up on RKLB. Your posts were timely, spot on and the outcome better than I anticipated.

With LQMT, I believe I covered the same info and gave the same reasons for no $$$ from applying CE sales no matter who does the manufacturing for Apple as in your post.

It comes down to law and common sense. When two parties have an agreement. In this case in perpetuity. The party that sold their rights cannot use a third party to circumvent any of the conditions of the agreement. Not only would they lose a lawsuit. They would lose everything else with it, about $37,000,000.00 presently. Eontec/yian is not going to jeopardize any portion of the largest amorphous metal contract negotiated outside of China, should that ever take place.

It is not LQMT who has secured the contract for Apple. It is Apple that has secured their own contracts should they decide to incorporate the IP of LQMT’s bought and paid for technology. They owe LQMT zilch. So too does Eontec.

The only benefit as was explained by me in my post and you in yours is the secondary benefit of free marketing and exposure to give LQMT opportunities to Ink other deals and credibility to their hypothetical potential.

Good luck to you.

I have a factual question: Did LL ever attend or take courses at the University of West Virginia?

Yes, No, NO?

Right, what were the answers?

Tomcat, I think we will see a run. It’s been three years. Fingers crossed.

Chip,

Ask TC when we will ALL be rich!

Thanks - Tomcat

just for giggles….I’ve exchanged emails with TC 5-6 times and he has always answered within 24 hours.

No other BMG company has the manufacturing ability to fulfill an order of Apple's size accept for LQMT partners EONTEC/YIHAO which means revenue for lqmt.

Please explain how LQMT gets revenue from Apple using “lqmt.” I’m confused because Apple has a worldwide, perpetual, and fully paid up license to use LQMTs IP as stipulated in the MTA between Apple and LQMT.

Even if Apple used Eontec (or any other one of Li’s companies) to manufacture components, why would LQMT get revenue?

Don’t get me wrong. I look forward to the revenue and your explanation. Especially, if you can explain it in light of the MTA or in light of your private conversations with Li.

Another interesting tidbit from ChatGPT:

In the context of Liquidmetal Technologies and its former CEO, Professor Lugee Li, there have been instances where individuals have claimed to have had direct communications with Professor Li. For example, a user on an investment forum stated, "Yes, I have directly communicated my questions, and concerns to Lugee Li and Tony Chung... before Li stepped down as CEO he communicated back to me on several occasions."
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While this particular claim does not appear to be false, it illustrates how individuals might assert having private conversations with company executives. Such assertions can be made for various reasons, including:

Enhancing Personal Credibility: Claiming direct communication with a CEO can bolster an individual's perceived authority or insider status within investment communities.
Influencing Investor Sentiment: Sharing purported insights from private conversations can sway opinions and potentially impact stock prices.
Seeking Attention or Validation: Individuals may make such claims to gain recognition or validation from peers.
It's important to approach such assertions critically, especially if they are unverified, as they can sometimes be misleading or false.

LQMT made a sale of patents to Apple back in 2011 or so for $20 Million which gave Apple theright to use LQMT  in their products without ever having to come to LQMT for production or manufacturing in the future so that is not going to happen. 
   If it were Lugee Li would not be dumping his shares. Sorry to bust your bubble on this one but since i have posted several ChatGPT's in the past and you have taken  to using it i will post one more. 

ChatGPT 

Around 2010–2011, Apple (AAPL) entered into an exclusive licensing agreement with Liquidmetal Technologies (LQMT) for the use of its amorphous metal alloys in consumer electronics. Apple reportedly paid $20 million for the rights to use Liquidmetal’s technology in its products.





Question
Does that possibly mean that Apple is able to buy machines and make electronics products on their own and does LQMT benefit any further from this deal on top of the $20 million ?


Answer 
Can Apple Manufacture Liquidmetal Products on Its Own?Yes, Apple has the ability to manufacture Liquidmetal products on its own without depending on Liquidmetal Technologies (LQMT). This is because:Exclusive Licensing: Apple’s 2010 deal granted it exclusive worldwide rights to use Liquidmetal’s technology in consumer electronics.In-House Development: Apple has since filed numerous patents related to Liquidmetal, suggesting it has been researching and developing its own applications for the material.Manufacturing Capabilities: Apple has the resources to buy or develop specialized machinery to mass-produce Liquidmetal components, possibly without relying on LQMT.Does LQMT Benefit Beyond the $20 Million?Not significantly. The initial deal primarily gave Apple exclusive rights for consumer electronics applications. LQMT:Did NOT get royalties or ongoing revenue from Apple’s use of the material.Retained rights for other industries, such as medical, automotive, and aerospace applications, meaning they can sell Liquidmetal technology elsewhere.Apple renewed its agreement over the years, but it is unclear if LQMT received additional payments beyond the original $20 million.Conclusion:Apple essentially bought exclusive rights for its own purposes and can now develop Liquidmetal-based products independently. LQMT does not directly profit from Apple's success unless Apple needs new technology outside the original licensing terms. However, Apple’s interest has helped boost Liquidmetal’s reputation, which may have indirectly benefited LQMT in other industries.
LQMT is free to venture in any and all areas other than consumer electronics but they have not or have been slow to do so. 
QuestionLugee Li just did a stock deal where i think he sold part of his shares …. Can you bring me up to speed on that deal ?
Answer In October 2024, Lugee Li Yeung Tak, a director and significant shareholder of Liquidmetal Technologies Inc. (LQMT), executed a substantial stock transaction. He sold 179,787,888 shares of LQMT common stock at a price of $0.16 per share, totaling approximately $28.8 million. investing.comFollowing this sale, Mr. Li retains ownership of 225,212,112 shares indirectly through Liquidmetal Technology Limited, a Hong Kong corporation where he serves as the sole shareholder, executive officer, and director. liquidmetal.gcs-web.comThe shares were sold to four third-party purchasers, each acquiring 44,946,972 shares in private transactions. These transactions were facilitated through Stock Purchase Agreements dated October 10, 2024, with each purchaser providing an executed promissory note in exchange for the shares. streetinsider.comIn addition to his remaining shares, Mr. Li holds stock options and warrants, including options for 700,000 shares at an exercise price of $0.13, 200,000 shares at an exercise price of $0.09, and a warrant for 10,066,809 shares at an exercise price of $0.07. investing.comThis significant divestment reduces Mr. Li's stake in LQMT to approximately 25.9%, based on 917,285,149 shares outstanding as reported in the company's Form 10-Q for the quarter ending June 30, 2024. streetinsider.comThe specific reasons for this sale have not been publicly disclosed. Such transactions can occur for various reasons, including personal financial planning, portfolio diversification, or other strategic considerations.Sources

Manufacturing using lqmt in an apple product will be the path to revenues whether the contract goes directly though lqmt USA or a Chinese partner like Eontec/Yiaho, so stop with the BULL already.

In all fairness to the company, and without speculation for their reasons, I always felt LQMT had a larger purpose for their silence.

Today, I do not see it the same way..

Like I told one of the upper tier supervisors in a company. What’s the purpose if you have an open door policy, but a closed mind? So who in their right mind is going to go in and talk to a wall?

I always have had an open mind to ideas and innovations and an open door to anyone who wanted to have a two way conversation.

Seems to me LQMT has become more like that upper tier supervisor and it shows in all aspects. The obvious one being the outside interest in investing.

Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Would be nice to advance an open ASHM this year. Perhaps shareholders can list their questions in posts just in case it is another one way call and maybe the CEO will answer the top 5 questions most asked. All already know what the negative reasons for failure are. So why not list what the hell the company is doing to ink deals every quarter. Hell, you have had two decades to prepare for it and at least eight years with enough cash to overcome some of those negatives. All shareholders see is squandered cash and zero progress with a sp that turns their pockets inside out! STOP THE SPIN! Show results, communicate or resign.
Short of that, the 0.02’s will be hard to avoid!

Yes metaphorically speaking, I'd say is the only way to talk about this entrapment, they can publish material that is definitive, although we have knowledge in prof of concept which could propel this market into the black.

 Until we receive exposure, "another week passes by" will be on the highlight reel.

Absolutely, when you look at the bigger picture right now and compare the little successes and the growing of revenues within this part of the metals industry. LQMT is just the nat on the elephants ass.

However, if they can morph into the size of a mosquito right now, it would be enough to make all happy.

Shareholders aren’t looking for the billions right now. Just a few million from the existing growth will be enough.

Heck we always ask metaphorically Where’s the beef, when LQMT can’t even serve the damn Bun!

The current and past admin may have had more pull then investors understood, might be another 4, 8 or 10 who knows maybe even 20....might take some night school courses to learn why I actually care.

For those who do not know. The GPa is a factor in determining how brittle a material will be.

https://www.engineersedge.com/strength_of_materials.htm

https://efficientengineer.com/youngs-modulus/

https://www.trumpf.com/en_US/solutions/applications/additive-manufacturing/laser-metal-fusion/3d-printing-amorphous-metals/what-are-amorphous-metals/

In either case. From the agreements in perpetuity, outside of any waivers. I see no primary direct benefit for LQMT. I do see a slight indirect secondary benefit if the term Liquidmetal is publicly mentioned.

Without outside investors becoming aware of this potential use. Coupled with the fact LQMT receives not one penny. It has the same effect as the tree that falls in the forest.

This is where the company imo, always falls short. Their effort to show expectations from commercial use outside of its website and trade show appearances are non existent. Even the 10K’s or 10Q’s no longer make general PR status. All done to cut costs as you have to pay for these wire services .

So they use the term "Liquid Metal" and reference our alloy in actual concept...well that solves that argument lol.

From the patent for flexible screen:

“A metal plate including a plurality of cavities in a folded region and disposed between the display panel and the back plate, the metal plate being made of a liquid metal plate having an elastic modulus of 10GPa to 100 GPa;“

On a serious note - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amorphous/s/uyG0R596PM

Concepts at bottom of page specifically relates to Liquidmetal alloys.

On Movano and the Evie ring, I too am surprised there was no push for the ring after they received the long-sought FDA clearance.

At the time I thought they would have been ready to go as soon as clearance was received. But things have been pretty silent.

Here’s what I suspect is going on:

They’ve mentioned that they have deep-pocketed investors with big agreements in development. Their goal is to sell a jillion rings to every hospital system, doctor, rehab facility, and research university in existence.

This makes me think that the aforementioned deep pocketed businesses were probably holding back on further investment until and unless the clearance came.

So there were no bullets in the chamber in that fateful day. Probably the gears just started turning in that for the investments to be made, the work to begin on marketing etc, the engineering on making a new EvieMed ring for men and women, etc. all of that probably was waiting for the goose to prove it could lay a golden egg.

So it could now be 6-18 months before anything comes out of Movano.

God willing and the creek don’t rise, EvieMed will be made with Liquidmetal (not some cheap plastic to satisfy penny pinching hospitals, etc).

I’ve mentioned that my wife had an Evie ring. We gave it to our son and we both got Oura rings. I won’t tell you how nice and effective they are because I want Evie to make it, but yeah, Movano has some serious competition. I won’t be surprised if they drop the “Evie” altogether and just focus on the EvieMed. I sure do hope it too is Liquidmetal.

Full post from MacDaily:

On Thursday, during Apple’s quarterly earnings call for the first fiscal quarter of 2025, CEO Tim Cook expressed a particularly optimistic view about the future of the iPhone lineup. When asked about potential innovations in iPhone form factors, Cook stated, “I think there’s a lot more to come,” and added, “I could not feel more optimistic about our product pipeline. So, I think there’s a lot of innovation left on the smartphone.”

Cook’s statement has sparked renewed interest and speculation about what Apple might have in store, particularly in light of ongoing rumors about new, groundbreaking iPhone models like the “iPhone Air” and a potential “foldable iPhone.”

I think there’s a lot more to come, and I could not feel more optimistic about our product pipeline. So, I think there’s a lot of innovation left on the smartphone. – Apple CEO Tim Cook, January 30, 2025

Rumors of an ultra-thin “iPhone Air” have been swirling for some time, with reports suggesting that Apple is working on a device significantly thinner than current models. This new model, tentatively dubbed the “iPhone 17 Air,” is expected to introduce a design that could be between 5mm and 6mm thick, which would make it the thinnest iPhone to date. The focus here is not just on aesthetics but on functionality, with the device potentially featuring a lower-powered chip and a single-lens camera to maintain affordability (and battery life) while pushing the boundaries of design. This aligns with Cook’s remarks about innovation, emphasizing Apple’s commitment to redefining the smartphone form factor.

Parallel to these developments, there’s considerable buzz about Apple’s venture into foldable smartphones. The idea of a “foldable iPhone” has been a topic of intense speculation, with some reports indicating that Apple might introduce a device with a top-down folding mechanism akin to traditional flip phones.

Such a device would not only showcase Apple’s prowess in engineering but also potentially solve some of the durability issues that have plagued other foldable phones in the market. Liquid Metal, anyone? The integration of Apple’s renowned ecosystem, including iPadOS-like multitasking capabilities, could make this foldable iPhone a significant leap in mobile technology”

“Instead of trying to "build it back better", how about "Put it back the way you found it"

Source: Watts Watt.

I think that is what is happening now.

That’s safe.

Pitiful..

Another week passes and LQMT’s share price is up 6.042% from 0.04055 cents to 0.043 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.

For now, LQMT’s share price is holding in the low pennies. Bouncing around in the low 0.04’s and upper 0.03’s on anemic trading volumes. No longer is the share price headed for the 0.03’s. It has reached the 0.03’s in intra day trading as predicted. The trend remains for lower share price trading. There are absolutely no limits to lows, where LQMT can drop to. They are called penny stocks for a reason. And just as there are no limits as to how low this stock can go. There are no limits as to how high they can go as well.

But for the stock to go higher long term, all would have to see new contracts of significance. Something all have not seen in many years. And for the stock to go lower long term, all would have to see no new contracts of significance in many years. To all in LQMT, Which one have you observed? There still may be one or two still confused. For the correct answer look at the price chart long term.

99.99% of LQMT investors understand this and accept what is and, what is not and have the cognitive ability to see and understand in which direction the share price is heading. We may not like the outcome so far and it is for that reason a .0001% of those invested will bury their head in the sand. Not everyone is as astute. Some unfortunately believe they got on a LQMT train that left the station. And a few thought LQMT would hit a dollar and never dip below 0.10 cents ever again. When the truth is we haven’t seen 0.09 cents in a long time. Let alone a dime and up. We would only need an insignificant 8K to do that.

That fact is never understood by those who lack some form of cognitive function. When confronted with facts of LQMT’s poor achievements as stated by LQMT over the years that do not align with their warped agenda, these investors develop a paranoia. A fear of something unfounded. A far fetched theory of manipulation beyond the norm.
Some will even excuse executive failure by negative risks already known for years as stated by LQMT on their own 10Ks and 10Qs.

Something new. Using a company’s standard risk factors to excuse poor performance. Doesn’t sound bullish to me. Sounds ridiculous to me. Just my opinion. Usually, these risks are standard because they are legally required. Not to excuse execs from falling in perpetuity. Just a simple requirement to let the buyer beware.

What’s worse or hilarious, it’s from the same people thinking the LQMT train left the station. What the hell happened? Did someone on that train pull the emergency brake? They sure did. I told LL to keep his filthy hands off of that switch. Did he listen? No! And now all of those that got on that metaphorical train apparently just realized the train is still in the railroad junkyard going nowhere and listening to TC spin it’s wheels once a year.

Few will even imagine communications with high level insiders and other amazing stories so incredibly too good to be true and never ever furnishing any proof of such claim originally made, when requested. Not just once, but over a dozen times.

All of this are just distractions from LQMT and have nothing to do with this investment, in which, all invested, myself included are not happy with LQMT at the moment, due to the company’s failure in significantly growing shareholder value.

Being disappointed by historical results may be a good logical reason to sell. But it may not be enough to negate the reason for buying and holding on.

The share price remains in a coma like the new contracts which are always anticipated, which has not occurred for three years now based on the LQMT end of year reviews and factual records.

36 months and LQMT is still without a new 8K announcement for a part order contract from executives operating the company. 3 years now and counting.

The bottom line was pointed out by another poster recently in so few words. Basically; Without new significant revenues flowing in, it’s all bullshit. The management hopes and forward worded dreams. Anyone arguing with that opinion, imo, has an agenda not aligned with reality.

Recently the 10Q’s show growth and the stock charts show a decline in shareholder value. A disconnect from the bottom line. A disconnect from where the stock markets are at and the expansion of amorphous metals abroad. A total disconnect from any correlations to growth everywhere else. The same disconnect you see in many posts from reality to an altered reality by some being bullish using absolutely no direct connection to LQMT.

Like the CEO spin annually.

Other than belief in the technology and FOMO. They are probably the only palatable reasons for holding on. Another one is simply gut instinct. Two of them are emotionally driven.

I say this since no one from the company tells us what is going on regularly through PR’s. Like once or twice a month. I believe the last PR was 10 months ago back in March.

Is it any wonder even anyone bullish doesn’t even know what the heck is going on.

Hell, no one still has any factual inkling why 4 shells born in September 2024 bought almost 180,000,000 million shares of stock 300% above the trading price. And more ridiculous, who buys that many shares and does not announce a business plan?

Like, what LL or LQMT is doing, we only have more theories. As someone so eloquently stated it on the news last week, 1/24/2025: A lack of communications only leads to speculation.

So then what the hell is missing? Given the fact that there does appear to be some sort of success with the same bought and paid for technology abroad.

Could it be inept management and the lack of means to have the knowledge to raise funds to self develop and manufacture the material, instead of selling out our chances for success. First, CE to Apple, then the whole shebang, the whole enchilada, the whole kit and caboodle to China and LL’s company Eontec? Oh no that couldn’t possibly be the reason. No, never.

Instead let’s blame the nay sayer posters in rebuttal, using adolescent content to those who point out the facts and are pissed off at their loss of value in their investment. Oh yeah, they must be the reason for LQMT’s failure to succeed annually. :) and let’s tell the naysayers and badgers to sell. Oh yeah, that will sky rocket up the share price. How intelligent? :) in fact one genius last week actually conjured up a new dots and dashes theory of connecting my posts to the MM’s as propaganda. You just can’t make this crap up.

The source for that theory is definitely almost not there, and never will be. You know, The lights are on. But nobody is ever home.

It pisses them off if they think you are insulting. Then my suggestion would be don’t insult.

Then there are a few who now are showing signs of the Stockholm Syndrome. (I say this in all humor) And for logical reasons. We have been taken hostage so long by LL & Co. Like the hell with the investment being worth crap right now. Heaven forbid we get rid of those responsible for it. Crap we can watch the share price hit 0.01, but let’s not get rid of the dead wood. :)

Now thats a great strategy. Let’s not chance it. Cause the foundation is built on bullshit and many know it. If you get rid of the bullshit. The whole company collapses. I get it. LQMT is not a Fortune 500 company. It’s not even a small cap. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. And if you still are afraid to let them go, then heck you can still keep them. But hire others with actual success qualifications and not the ones with frivolous resumes.

Like the one that follows in my opinion. Now it might be a great resume, but to me regarding LQMT, not so much.

If the cash-burn is burning at least go out fighting and not drip drip drip every week month year. Like my posts.

Does anyone here remember what KK did for the company or who he was?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kriswkent

From my personal experience, in a company, you get rid of the dead wood, you know the whiners, the complainers, here’s a word; the kvetches and things run smoothly, the work gets done in less time with less incompetence.

As stated by me many times. I believe all, including myself want to see LQMT succeed. I also have zero connections with any MM. and I have a zero agenda as one poster likes to accuse.

My posts and opinions are based on what LQMT has achieved as stated in their quarterly, annual and commentary statements as well as their limited communications by way of PR’s. They are also based on the anemic liquidity and trading volumes way below 1% of the float. In essence reality. Not bashing. Most get it. One or two not so much.

Now the only broken records are the ones I observe being broken by LQMT and unfortunately stated weekly by me. I would love to see the week LQMT announces something substantial to reverse the southernly direction of the share price and report broken records to the upside as we hit 10 cents 20 cents 30 cents 40 cents 50 cents and higher.

Like I stated last week as well. Usually rebuttals to my another week weekly posts are made up with insulting adolescent content.

To those still claiming to want to buy those cheap shares…guess what? You can still buy them and at a cheaper price come Monday morning or any other trading day :)

Again, You just can’t make this crap up. :)
They should, whoever they are, be thanking every naysayer for holding on and not selling. Man, did they not save them a lot of money. :)

Heck they (the so called bashers) could have sold it at 0.09 cents and the bullish one’s calling those who have a difference of opinions bashers would have more losses today.

I try to present a balanced realistic view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT. I believe I nailed it correctly. This board has had it correct past and present from potential to expectations to hope to FOMO.

I would rather see a weekly LQMT blog update on any progress from the company, or a more frequent PR monthly, than to post another week passes post. I’m sure everyone else would agree.

Will this be the year revenues increase consistently? Only the 4th Q’s will tell. 3 down and 1 to go. So far it looks good. Increasing revenues are always good. Significantly increasing revenues are even better.

Perhaps in 2026 or 2027 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2025, all in it will be very thankful and glad that they did.

So why do I post like this, no one asked? Because there are and will be many others who have been here for a long, long, long time, like around 20 years and may not be around in 20 more years.

Those who don’t like it, can-go- to- sell. Or hang on and stop insulting others. It doesn’t do anything to further an intelligent conversation.

Which brings up a hypothetical question.
How many here or anywhere else would sell if LQMT offered 0.02 cents a share for every year you have been a shareholder 5 years and up? For example 10 years = 20 cents a share. 20 years 40 cents a share.

Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC & Co., luck.
New tenant yet??? 🤔 hmmm?
I think others have wisely suggested. Sell the property, move to another state and lower your taxes and operating costs further. Heck, it may not raise the shareholder value, but it will bring the company much closer to reporting a bottom line profit and you can still collect rental income. Maybe even build that car wash too, while waiting for that ship to come in. :)
And who knows, maybe even invest in equipment to successfully manufacture domestically and hire people who understand what to do with the material and how to sell it too.
Those tariffs will have a negative effect on LQMT.

MacDaily News discussing the Apple flip phone after Cooks earnings call:


"Such a device would not only showcase Apple’s prowess in engineering but also potentially solve some of the durability issues that have plagued other foldable phones in the market. Liquid Metal, anyone? "

Here’s a risk factor not discussed. Not obsolescence! But how the decisions to severely cut back on R&D impacts on the expedition of the company becoming obsolete.

What kept this company afloat in times of facing bankruptcy was not the influx of cash from vultures. It was the valuable information within the company’s IP. They could give two zits about LQMT’s well being. Like a drug addiction each needed a fix. They needed the IP and LQMT needed the cash.

R&D led to enhancing the company’s value. Year after year they filed for new patients and received approval. Those patents gave both the shareholders value and protection. Like in IT (information technology) the value of a product is only maintained by the continuous evolution of that technology. Patents are what keeps a company valuable and avoids obsolescence from others competing.

When you give up R&D, you give up competing. You through time become obsolete due to expiration of patented ip protections.

Since China’s take over of LQMT, R&D has been virtually shelved to where China now virtually does the R&D and LQMT is now dependent on others to share.

Not only are they dependent on others to share the new IP with them. LQMT can’t do squat with it due to the fact they also have to depend on others to manufacture for them as well.

Both situations no longer protect the company’s value or shareholders value. In fact they decrease it more and more going forward.

Think about it the next time anyone searches for answers on a platform lacking common sense.

Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish tc luck.

Zero new 8K parts contracts over three years. Looks to me more and more like tc was pinning his hopes on the ring start up company to take off.

What is going unanswered with that story which leads to positive speculation is… what was the rush for the Nasdaq play if B2B contracts were not lined up the way we thought they might have been upon getting FDA approval? It’s still trading in the 0.30’s subtracting the split.

I don’t see a panic from the delay of B2B. Which leads me to speculate execs knew of this ahead of time and delays were anticipated by insiders. I’m speculating if the sp drops and holds below the $4 dollars a share price. They have problems.

Doesn’t look like b2c did well. Otherwise sp would be holding closer to $12 a share. That was the sp average when they announced their first launch back in 2023 without fda approval.

IMO, without new deep pockets they could be heading for deep problems as I am perceiving they have enormous cash burn issues to operate.

Selling 12,000 rings imo, doesn’t make enough to throw the sawdust on the floor to keep dancing to flash that wellness bling on the dance floor. But should be enough to keep them on the Nasdaq floor.

Everyone is frustrated because a plumber or electrician could have done more with this company.
It has pitiful performance after all these years and stands to reason with plenty of capital there
has not been more achievements to date.

However, #5 on the Breakout Board.... ?

15 year build and still acquiring patents. Over 30 patents approved for foldable phones by Apple.

I believe we both agree that Apple waits to see the kinks, irons them out and then tries to best the competition, while companies like Samsung offers the bells and whistles. Same history with Verizon. Other companies offer the best plans with all of the trimmings for less, while Verizon tries to offer the best connection. 5g is offered by others first, Verizon improves on it and then tries to grow a bigger base.

Perhaps the big wait might also be dependent on this too. The foldable phones have not been adopted by businesses for their employees yet as many offer iPhones to their employees. In essence there are (millions of) many iPhones out there not purchased by individuals but by employers for individuals. Perhaps Apple would have to sweeten the pot for them to adapt. That would give the exposure of I have to have one too.

So far there has not been a rush from consumers to indulge or cut into Apple’s bottom line.

Without waivers LQMT still might benefit from the hype and exposure. Just like the original cell phones Germany had them first. Japan had HDTV first. It takes a lot of time for the USA to catch up. The sad part is we still don’t do most of the manufacturing. Maybe some of that will change due to tariffs. It’s starting to.

The USA invents the technology. It is outsourced and exploited abroad and then is perfected and repackaged here years later.

Bottom line: I don’t think Apple is adding patents to prevent the growth or demand for foldable phones, but to say the simmering is done. Time to serve. If you research the patents they are not just more of the same as employed abroad.

One of the purchasers involved in the LL .16 cent deal owned a company making foldable phones with amorphous metal hinges, which recently filed for bankruptcy last year. I posted about him in a few of my posts. Got no feedback from anyone on this board or abroad. Who knows? Like I said in a recent post quoting someone else in the news: no communications only leads to speculations.

Hype hope pump potential and speculations and TC end of year spin, aren’t worth jack any more with this dice roll.

Is that it? I’m very disappointed. I expected more. Hope you feel better, get well soon.

And you are a broken record reporting the same old same old week after week without an orginal thought, or just insulting others.

Brittle was my word and probably not well chosen. It’s not my sense that Liquidmetal is brittle, only that it fractures precipitously when it fractures. Don’t want to be spreading FUD.

No story, I'm curious as to how far this has come along, 15 year build out sounds as if it's been simmering for long enough. 

Ah! The good ‘ol Mid Frame Box!!!

The story line used to be: Because of Antenna-gate, LQMT was the only possible solution for Apple because LM 106 was the only know material that RF frequencies could pass through yet still provide the sturdy framework up to Cupertino standards. Of course production was going to have to begin immediately to meet insatiable iPhone 4 demand. There were supposed secret documents and sketches posted here showing the plausibility. This was back in 2010 or so.

What is the story now?

Thanks for your input. It was interesting but somewhat dated (although it had no date).

The only real reference to brittleness was really a comment regarding its lack of ductility and the fact that it doesn’t “telegraph” when it’s about to fail. Conventional metals conform to Young’s Modulus and elongate prior to failure but BMGs break at a much higher level but precipitously. It’s a difference but not a “fatal flaw” IMO of course.

No mention about impact resistance.

Will using this material inside midframe phones initate commercialization? This could only work with apple/samsung approval...

Thanks for your input and I recall someone talking about automobile wheels way back….but I think we are lacking current unbiased info. Back then the formula was LM105 or its predecessor and the maximum part size was something like a hundred grams or less. That leads me to say nobody actually made a wheel much less tested it. How does a conclusion like that originate.

Why doesn’t someone take a guitar pin or EVIE ring and smash it with a
hammer to see if it shatters….simple test and under a few hundred dollars.

Perhaps beryllium was the culprit ingredient…who knows?

If LL and the Politburo decide to make this a profit center, that could have the positive outcome we are looking for. Until that happens...........

Since you have already concluded all outcomes being negative. Then that leaves no room for discourse.

Not saying your outcomes are wrong from your viewpoint.

It is easy to see the same outcome as you imply from your point of view do nothing and sink slowly or do something and sink quickly.

I just don’t agree with the outcomes of doing something will result in failure.

Remember LQMT was already going south of the border way before LL bought control to profit off of the IP, while throwing them a lifesaver. After that, imo, he has already abandoned ship in deeds not in title.

Here is a link that goes into the issue of being brittle…

https://www.metallurgyfordummies.com/amorphous-metal.html

Good luck to you.

I certainly agree with your observations, but still maintain that this is going nowhere until LL & the Politburo say so. On the other hand If they abandon ship and sell out, where does that leave us? Back to 2010 SOL, or 2016 without the funding or manufacturing. Just rental income and an empty set of desks. To put it another way, if the Chinese interests are not interested in making this a profit center, we are done here. And time kills everything. Including us.

The controversy of LQMT’s material attributed to being brittle is briefly discussed in their design guide 5.0 page 10. I don’t believe it has been updated in five years regarding this issue.

The bottom line is: they seem to gloss over the issue as not being a problem if any exists.

Good luck to you.

Too little, too late. That’s known as closing the barn door after the horses have bolted. Li was in charge and bears ultimate responsibility. Also, did he actually fire anyone or didn’t they get nice golden parachutes while we got nothing. Just like we got nothing while Li arranged a sweetheart deal to unload approximately 180 million shares.

Wrong again! He forgot to resign from LQMT!

The buck does not stop with employees who left the company with parachutes. It should have stopped with LL’s complete resignation from the company and not passed onto his proxies to be controlled having almost zero background in the engineering of the material they are in charge of selling.

Like a (LL) surgeon putting a plumber an electrician and an auto mechanic into a hospital’s operating room to perform life saving open heart surgery.

It wouldn’t have to great of an outcome and the same is not having too good of an outcome for shareholders of LQMT either.

Not at all saying they (the executives) are not trying. Just saying the outcome isn’t going well for the shareholders to survive.

Like on life support until the (shareholders)?patient dies or the plug is pulled.

It’s time and long overdue for LQMT to bring in successful leadership with a clear understanding of the material and a successful history for increasing sales to overcome all of their negative risks and obstacles.