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Okay. We're listening. When did she do this? What did she say? What documentation was filed in conjunction with this "begging" that proves there are hidden rillions that are destined to be distributed to escrow holders?

EDIT: Just within the first few minutes of this post appearing, ron_66271 responded with his usual disapproval tags, the "No" symbol and the big "X" symbol. The believers hate even being asked to prove their conspiracy theory.

Agreed.

JHD

AI agrees with you

"Washington Mutual (WaMu) shareholders are unlikely to see any significant distribution from the company’s bankruptcy proceedings, which concluded years ago. WaMu, once a major U.S. savings and loan institution, was seized by regulators in 2008 during the financial crisis and sold to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion. The bankruptcy case, filed under Chapter 11, involved a reorganization plan that distributed approximately $7 billion to creditors, leaving little to no recovery for shareholders.

Several factors support this conclusion:Bankruptcy Outcome: WaMu’s reorganization plan, finalized around 2011, prioritized creditors over shareholders, as is standard in bankruptcy proceedings. Shareholders, particularly common stockholders, were at the bottom of the repayment hierarchy. The plan explicitly left nothing for shareholders, with creditors receiving the bulk of the $7 billion distribution.

Shareholder Disputes: Shareholders fought for a share of the bankruptcy estate, arguing that WaMu’s assets, including potential legal claims and tax breaks, could be worth up to $20 billion. However, these claims were largely dismissed, and settlement talks with shareholders collapsed in 2011. A tentative deal that year offered shareholders tax breaks and a $30 million litigation trust, but it did not result in significant recovery for common shareholders.

Legal and Financial Barriers: Shareholders accused hedge funds of insider trading and challenged the bankruptcy plan’s fairness, but these efforts failed to alter the outcome. The courts approved WaMu’s plan, which included a global settlement with JPMorgan and the FDIC, distributing assets primarily to creditors. Delays caused by shareholder objections further reduced potential recoveries, as creditors’ claims accrued interest.

Historical Precedent: In major bank failures like WaMu’s, shareholders typically receive little to no payout unless significant assets remain after creditors are fully paid. WaMu’s case, one of the largest bank failures in U.S. history, followed this pattern, with no substantial assets left for equity holders.

Recent Developments: There is no recent news (as of July 2025) indicating any new distributions or reopened claims for WaMu shareholders. The bankruptcy case is long closed, and any remaining litigation trusts or legal claims are unlikely to yield meaningful payouts for shareholders, given the precedence of creditor claims and the passage of time.

While shareholders hoped for recovery through litigation or asset revaluation, the bankruptcy’s structure and legal outcomes make it highly improbable for them to receive any distribution now or in the future. If you’re a shareholder seeking specific advice, consult a financial advisor or legal expert familiar with bankruptcy claims to explore any niche possibilities, though the prospects appear dim based on available information."

"There's no basis in reality for the belief that hidden rillions are sequestered away for old WaMu investors. What's more important is that not only is that a baseless conspiracy theory,"

You are correct! Sheila went before Congress 'begging' to be allowed to take control of a 'worthless' Holding Company.....

LOL.....

Nah, being rude is actually one of your natural characteristics when confronted with a simple question you can’t answer. Your response indicates you’re as big of a nonsensical poster as RD! BIGBANG! Actually a big dud! Lay off the sauce!

I hate to be so rude; however, please go play in your sandbox. I’m sure it will be a lot more fun for you!! Bye, until later.

what you're saying isn't trueWow, you got me! By the way, you silly person, you’re arguing with a bot! Sorry to stop this back-and-forth; however, the laptop I’m running on needs to have its battery charged! Hope to hear from you soon, but then not too soon.

Question, where was the insult in my narrative to you? I can’t understand for the life of me why you gave RD a thumbs up emoji for his nonsensical copy and paste narrative. But you did, total nonsensical copy and paste narrative and you can’t explain the association to literally ANYTHING to do with WAMU, WMIH, WMI, COOP. No insult intended, I simply ask you to explain where the correlation is. There is non, therefore your nonsensical accusatory response! BIG BANG! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

If you were here every day claiming that the Earth is flat, I'd contradict you as often as I could, because what you're saying isn't true.

There's no basis in reality for the belief that hidden rillions are sequestered away for old WaMu investors. What's more important is that not only is that a baseless conspiracy theory, it has absolutely nothing to do with the upcoming acquisition of COOP by RKT and will not hinder, stop, or affect that acquisition.

Additionally, because some believers are realistic enough to fear that the acquisition of COOP by RKT will mean the end of the conspiracy theory, they have cast doubt on the acquisition, hoping that it won't happen and prove them wrong.

The realistic and serious investors in COOP and RKT need to know that, so they won't be unnecessarily concerned about it.

All indications point to you being RD's numero uno cheerleaderI can’t understand for the life of me how you came to that conclusion! And, if you don’t mind, please stop with your insults; not nice.

The believers often attack anyone who questions their fantasiesWhy even bother questioning the ‘believers’ fantasies? What is it to you if they believe that something is coming back after all is said and done? Believe what you will and move on. The ‘believers’, which, by the way, if you don’t already know, includes myself, and we don’t really care as to what you think. I don’t understand how anyone can be so devoted to telling the ‘believers’ that there is nothing to see here.

WMI did not have assets of 300B CORRECT....

THE REAL NUMBER WAS $385 BILLION Pre GOVERMENT HEARING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BIGBANG! All indications point to you being RD's numero uno cheerleader and as such can you explain his latest DD post? 😂There is no mention of former Washington Mutual equity holders nor WAMU, WHI, WMIH or COOP in any way in the document and yet you give him a thumbs up emoji. GREAT DD RD! You be da man! BIGBANG, BIGBANG, BIGBANG! 😂

That's one of the weird twists to the drama on this board. The believers often attack anyone who questions their fantasies or contradicts their assumptions by claiming that they must not have released. But the way many of them dismiss or ignore COOP would suggest that they don't actually own any COOP.

Talk about missing the boat.

Some Buddy Didn’t Sign the Release Document.

The way you guys make assumptions based on little or no evidence exposes you for the conspiracy nuts you are. (And your minimal grasp of U. S. English raises all kinds of other questions.)

WMI did not have assets of 300B - its assets consisted mainly of its equity stake in WMB, which ended up worthless.

WMB had assets of roughly 300B which were taken over by JPM.

You have never actually looked at a financial statement - right?

So, assets worth a confirmed \$300 billion just disappeared? Magic — and who exactly were they distributed to? I’m sure you can provide the relevant links — after all, \$300 billion isn’t exactly easy to hide.

No - the WMI assets don’t exist anymore. They were distributed in the Chapter 11 process which has long been finished.

Any accountant would be delighted to explain.

So you’re confirming now that the holding assets are *not* with JPM and still exist? Hear, hear!

JPM acquired WMB assets and assumed most of its liabilities.

It did not acquire any of WMI‘s assets or liabilities.

so if all the assets of WAMU r in the financial statements - when did they pay for the assets .. WAMU Asset's, not WMB!
where is the money gone for this assets?

I see you like fiction novels🤗

Of course.

thank you very much for your concernNo worries, I’m glad I could help! And by the way, I know exactly how well COOP is doing as I own quite a few shares. Enjoy the rest of your day, that is if you can.

so all the wamu assets r listed in the financial statements???

Not sure what you don’t understand about financial statements - although I suspect it’s quite a lot. A casual chat with an accountant may help….

JPM needs to list all of it’s liabilities in its financial statements otherwise it would commit accounting fraud for which management would risk going to jail. If no liability is listed it’s because none exists.

There is not a single dollar of residual liability from the purchase of WMB towards former Escrow holders listed in JPM‘s financial statement since 2008 - because no such liability exists.

If you think otherwise the SEC would surely like to hear from you. 😃

The "there's nothing left" people in this room always demand to see a document proving that JPMorgan still has something to pay. But the question can just as well be turned around: show a document in which JPMorgan explicitly states that it no longer has to pay for the assets that did not belong to Washington Mutual Bank but were nonetheless taken over.

And if you then argue that these are the same assets JPMorgan took over, then — spoiler alert — what’s the point of a holding company if Washington Mutual Bank owned all of the assets in the first place?

If you could read a chart, you may have seen that COOP has been an amazing investment - thank you very much for your concern 😃

Interesting strategy, isn’t it? 😃In my opinion, it is better than yours. If I were in your shoes, and I’m glad that I’m not, I would move on and spend my time looking for better opportunities in the market than spending that time bashing posters who have a view that does not reflect yours.

The FDIC will announce settlement soon after IMO
FAIRNESS HEARING: The Court will hold the Fairness Hearing on July 16, 2025. At the Fairness Hearing, the Court will consider whether the Settlements are fair, reasonable, and adequate. The Court will also consider whether to approve the Plans of Allocation and requests for the attorneys’ Fee and Expense Awards, costs, and Plaintiffs’ Service Awards. If there are any objections, the Court will consider them at this time. Although you do not need to participate, you are welcome to participate at the Fairness Hearing. You may also hire your own lawyer to participate, but you are not required to do so. This Notice summarizes the Settlement Agreements. More details are in the Settlement Agreements and Plans of Allocation, which are available for your review at the Settlement Website, www.InterestRateSwapsAntitrustLitigation.com. The Settlement Website also has answers to common questions about the Settlements, Claim Form, and other information to help you determine whether you are a Settlement Class Member and whether you are eligible for a payment. You may also call toll-free 1-888-597-6416.

https://interestrateswapsantitrustlitigation.com/Content/Documents/Summary%20Notice.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawLfeI1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHnNsfxCGJ1xf6NDLKBsKEcSNhchluH06X8rtICY4R4BxSGH1RSALGKZmGeE-_aem_oh_luk_BUMuI5IiZs-BXdA

Fiction writing, like more than Fair and Reasonable? Fiction Writing, like Meaningful and Significant recovery? Like Litigation Trusts, Liquidating Trusts and TABs, all worth zero, amended and then sealed from view. That kinda fiction? Or how bout our releasing for Willful Misconduct and Voila 30 billion found in the rubble. Is that fiction? No Kosturos but then Kosturos? Fiction? Its all a blur..

Go back in your hole, or redirect your ire and focus to the real fiction writers WillyJam, Susman and Co.

Good morning people To the believers, it’s ok to believe or even dream as some here might say , think of it this way ,it’s not you who spends 24/7 for how many years with many post all hours of the day and nights too wowww, GO AND BELIEVE OR DREAM and live ur life how you wish, AIMHO

GogoooCOOP
Have a great Sunday people GLTA-Ts

So you have had enough concrete evidence for the last 5 or 10 years to bring a massive law suit against JPM to force them to pay hundreds of billions to former Escrow holders and make you personally and many others rich beyond your wildest dreams?

But no one should speak to a lawyer or send a letter to the SEC and instead wait for JPM to make these payments voluntarily “hopefully soon“?

Interesting strategy, isn’t it? 😃

Proclaiming yourself an authority without proving it is empty talk.Wow, coming from you that is hilarious (I will be laughing all day). The saying "the pot calling the kettle black" certainly applies here. Please show us your proof!

Not our fault that you came to the party late.He may have been here all along. Maybe he is being paid to represent the JPMC cabal! Why else would someone be so determined to keep telling us that “nothing is coming back.” Why not spend that time to look for other investment opportunities instead of bashing posters who have a positive outlook as to what the outcome might be? Hiding behind a pseudonym nobody would know.

You should be a fiction writer, because you do it so well

Some Buddy Didn’t Sign the Release Document.

No need to say anything more!



Ron

No, 41.6 is one of your pet theories, which you never bother to prove or even try to explain.

Reading documents and picking and choosing the parts you like isn't DD.

Proclaiming yourself an authority without proving it is empty talk.

JD/JPM Have Very Large Debt To Pay.

You become close with your numbers.


41.6 “Willful Misconduct” is the Proof.

Not our fault that you came to the party late.

You are way behind on the DD curve.



Ron

Okay. Now it's becoming clearer. The same Jamie Dimon and the same JPM shareholders that the believers constantly berate as being crooks and weasels are going to see things in a new light and pass over the dough any day now -- of their own free will.

It has alway been hypocritical to not recognize our own envolment  in this crazy strategy  to show our distaste for JPM we might remain part of the largest bank in the world. We may be sticky partners.

It’s not the shareholders of JPMC who are to blame, it is the corrupt and slimy company that they are invested in. I’m sure that most of them don’t even know what transpired on September 25, 2008, a day that will live in infamy at least for those of us who have been here for seventeen years and know what happened then to WMI!

But no one even spoke to lawyer or the SEC in 17 years to bring a massive lawsuit against JPMNo one has to speak with a lawyer. JPMC knows that they will have to pay book value for everything that was ‘gifted’ (stolen from WMI shareholders) to them. Unfortunately no one knows when this will happen; hopefully soon.

Wow!!! Thanks Ron!!! We have following the trusts and the other Cactus monitors them.....we are so saved!!!!! 300k per P's coming back real soon...  

I don't have to show you a guarantee...because you see it in real time....unless you are like cactus and are receiving distributions....you would be the only one.....so far after 17 years....we are raking in the money.....from coop at 140+...... and in a few months 11-1.....that is guaranteed....not escrows...but you believe....and it will come...

Why not tell every your theory is not zero...we heard Ron's explanation tell us yours....

The kettle calling the bottom black.
The phrase is: "the pot calling the kettle black," comrade.

" It's simply the numbers given to me by ron_66271 and plugged into a compound interest calculator."

No, itis NOT!

"I didn't add or subtract anything from his question or use any tricks."

Yes, you did!

See my post #744793

My mistake. And now the number is even more ridiculous.

Why does Ron's post state 17 years of interest, "
"$300B times 2 ($600) plus 17 years of interest at 2%." 17years at 2% = $842,730,012,053.06

But you only use 7 years? 7years at 2% = $690,083,854,188.83

https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/compound?a=600000000000&p=2&pp=yearly&y=7&m=0&rd=0&rp=monthly&rt=deposit&rw=0&rwp=1m&rm=end&ci=monthly&cc=1&c=1&di=&wi=