ottoman
4 years ago
Just like today32 said, nothing is happening with this. Last I heard, there was some potential class-action lawsuit being formulated, but that was years ago. (2016)
Link here: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-shareholders-announce-formation-of-a-group-to-recover-investor-funds-through-a-receivership-over-china-based-american-oriental-bioengineering-inc-ticker-aobi-300376594.html
I have several brokerage accounts with "ghost" shares on AOBI....just showing cusip number 028731404 with no market value.
It's not like they reneged on the reverse split at the last minute (causing us to lose money because of commission fees or capital loss etc), and it's not like they cashed out for 1 penny on the dollar....They just did the reverse split, shares went POOF, and all money gone. Stolen.
ottoman
9 years ago
Latest Response from Broker: ....
(June 10, 2016)
"Thank you for contacting Fidelity Investments! I appreciate that you are entrusting your investing assets with our firm, and it is my pleasure to assist you.
After speaking with our Corporate Actions department, I confirmed that there have been no responses from the company American Oriental Bioengineering about the cashing out of their old shares. It seems that this company has been unresponsive for the last two years, and we have no way of forcing this cash out without their response. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause.
We have been asked that all inquiries pertaining to this matter should be directed to: Yanchun Li at AOBO6@VIP.SINA.COM. The company's telephone number is 011-86-10-5982-2069."
blatent fraud. company putting out totally scam information in their SEC filings, and the SEC says.....(wait for it...) MEH!
If only the company was some conservative Chinese company, like FREEDOM Bioengineering inc., or PATRIOT american bioengineering inc., SEC would be all over that shit lol.
MrchntDeth
9 years ago
I'm still here, pissed at what these Chinese Crooks [Department of Redundancy Department?] have pulled off with yet another one of the SCAMS for which they're famous for.
Here's my suggestion:
Buy 100 or 200 shares of this POS stock. 100 or 200 shares of AOBI will set you back ~$200 to $400. But . . .
The next step is have your broker transfer your shares out of street name and into yours. I did this with my Fidelity account. There is NO CHARGE for this at Fidelity SO LONG AS you're not requesting a paper stock certificate. Just ask them to do an electronic transfer to transfer the shares out of Street Name and into your name.
The Transfer Agent is Computershare. Fidelity (in my situation) will electronically transfer the shares out of my individual NON-RETIREMENT account and into my "account" at Computershare.com. The Transfer Agent will then send a letter informing me that I now hold X number of shares of AOBI held by Computershare, along with my account number at CS, etc.
This is where the fun part begins:
You will want to transfer at least one (1) share of AOBI to 100 to 200 of your closest family members and/or best friends. Get their permission, of course, but once you do, send a "Letter of Instruction" to Computershare Investor Centre.
In this Letter of Instruction, write an Introductory Paragraph (e.g., "My name is Johnny Wishbone, I am the owner of record of "X" shares of AOBI. I would like to transfer one (1) share of AOBIto each of the following people, trust accounts, custodian for minors, etc., as follows:)
Then, start with the Number 1., name, address and SSN (if you have the latter), otherwise, they'll ask these NEWEST co-owners in our fine company to supply SSN . . . just in case the compnay should make some kind of payment. [As an aside, you can stop ROTFLYFAO right now).
Instruct Computershare to issue a "STOCK CERTIFICATE" (i.e., an OLD-FASHION PAPER STOCK CERTIFICATE). This will be done at NO CHARGE to either the gifting shareholder or any of the hundred or so recipients. This is charged to the company (AOBI).
The cool part is that we all get to spread the love, SPREAD SOME SHARES to NEW shareholders, make AOBI pay for the transfer/issuance of these 100-200 stock transfers, not only in issuing the 100-200 new stock certs., but to incur the cost of adding/subtracting my 100-200 shares from my accounts, issuing stock certificates where one would normally be charged $250.00 to $500.00 for EACH STOCK CERTIFICATE by our stock brokerage firms.
And best of all, once we hit the Magic Number of 300 or more separate, distinct shareholders, guess what? AOBI's suspension of their duty to File reports with the SEC must ONCE AGAIN RESUME incurring all he Sar-Box expenses of SEC filings, paying law firms, accountants, all of the expenses that they thought they were saving by "GETTING OVER ON US". AOBI's duty to report to, file with, the SEC was merely SUSPENDED . . . it NEVER went away. Once we hit the Magic Number of more than 300 shareholders, their DUTY is ON AGAIN.
I hope that I've explained the process with enough detail, yet without confusing the hell out of everybody. If I managed to confuse, please do not hesitate to ask for help.
AOBI was "such a great Chinese Company, trading in the United States" under OUR stock exchanges, facing compliance with Sar-Box, the SEC, the Attorneys General of all 50 states.
It will be so much fun welcoming Fat Tony & Co., back to our fair country. Our rules aren't as Loosey-Goosey as they are in the Far East, but hey, it'll be fun getting to say "Hi" to these guys.
So, AOBI went dark on us per SEC rules (of suspension of duties to file/report once you have less than 300 shareholders. All that I am doing is helping our friends "stuck in China" to come back to our country, and they will have the privilege of turning the lights back on again. You know . . . just like it used to be . . . Old School . . . good times.
Again, please let me know of I can be of assistance in transferring your shares to family/friends. I'd be happy to help since it will help us turn the lights on once again on a company whose BOD, Majority Holder, etc.
ottoman
9 years ago
Update from Optionshouse broker:
I noticed on Tuesday, that Optionshouse removed the 500 shares of AOBI (temporary shares held in "contra" account) for cash out of $0.50 per pre-split share.
Here is their response today.
Hello XXXXX,
Our Operations department looked into the AOBI Corporate Action for you, but was unable to provide any updates of if and when the cash settlement will be paid. It appears that American Oriental has stopped responding to all legal litigation and has not taken any steps to make payment for the cash settlement. At this point, we do not have any further information and have no anticipated date of when the company is going to pay the cash settlement, if at all. I have included a copy of the most recent memorandum regarding this Corporate Action below.
Mandatory Announcement
We have been notified, DTC HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN ANY FURTHER INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE CASH
OUT OF FRACTIONAL SHARES. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WRIGHT & LOEB IS NO LONGER
REPRESENTING AMERICAN ORIENTAL AND ALL INQUIRIES SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE
ISSUER.
AMERICAN ORIENTAL HAS BEEN UNRESPONSIVE AND HAS NOT COMMUNICATED WITH DTC
VERBALLY OR IN WRITING TO OUR INQUIRIES PERTAINING TO THE CASH OUT OF
FRACTIONAL SHARES.
The shares will be removed from the clientβs positions, UPON NOTIFICATION OF ANY FUTURE
DISTRIBUTIONS FROM THE ISSUER, DTC WILL TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO
REINSTATE ALL POSITIONS AND ALLOCATE ENTITLEMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
The shares will be removed from the client accounts on 8/7/15.
ottoman
10 years ago
I've just about had it with these cash out plays...companies are getting away with lying in their SEC filings!
FCRM. on 1/22/2015, FCRM did a 1-200 reverse stock split with a special condition that stockholders with less than 200 shares would be cashed out.
def 14c filing on 11/18/2014: "stockholders of record who own less than 200 pre-split shares of Common Stock on the Effective Date will be cashed out at a price of $0.50 per pre-split share."
I was not cashed out, and the temporary stock/cusip number was just reverted back to FCRM.
Here is my broker's response just now,
"It appears that Franklin Credit Management Corporation transfer agent rejected the request to receive cash for the 199 shares. Instead the company processed a reverse split 1-200, then process a forward split for 200-1. Also the company changed the CUSIP number of the security from 353491103 to 353491202. Details on why the company rejected the tender cash offer, you will to contact the company's Investor Relations department for more information. You should be able to find the contact information on the company's website."
How the hell do you just decide which parts of the SEC filing you are going to abide by?
fu**ing crooks.
NOW I CAN'T sell the stupid stock, because Fidelity is telling me there is NO bid showing up for them for the stock, even though I show .31 x .50 on Scottrade and other brokers.
ottoman
10 years ago
well, I'm claiming AOBI as a tax loss for 2014. why not? the money went poof!
Even though there's not really a "sell date" for a loss, it could be the day of the reverse split. That's what I'm claiming.
Not a large amount of money, but the principle of the thing.
IF we ever get paid for fractionals, I'll claim it, but it doesn't look good. Hell, if the law firm representing AOBI hasn't even contacted the company since summer, this fractional payout deal is of zero priority to them.
Where are the class-action lawsuits? lol.