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NY1972 NY1972 2 weeks ago
After witnessing NT-175, FT836 .... failures. I no longer believe in high ORR with billions of NK or T cells. I think IMCR offers the best hope based their 5 year OS study.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 weeks ago
Historically, the criticism of NK therapies has been that they don't persist, don't expand, and don't control solid tumours. Now another paper challenges that https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scitranslmed.adw5567

A phase I trial of CD39+CD49a+CD103+ NKs (+/- cetuximab) in patients with advanced HNSCC is planned. The team has also developed a method for transforming and expanding the cells at scale, with one donor potentially generating around twenty doses in about two weeks.

The most important question is unlikely to be safety, but whether these cells actually infiltrate, persist, expand, and function in patients. If these NKs show activity, they may validate that cell phenotype may matter as much as the CAR and engineering.

So a future engineered iPSC-derived T-cell might not try to become a conventional circulating effector CD8+ T-cell. Instead, developers may engineer tissue-resident and stem-like programs, while preserving cytotoxicity (this would be built on with CAR(s) and other engineering). That's similar to what this NK population appears to have.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 weeks ago
The current data suggests the bottleneck may be incomplete control of heterogeneous metastatic disease and different TMEs.

If so, I suspect immunogenic/TME-modulating neo-adjuvant therapies* may ultimately be more interesting than simply adding standard conditioning with Cy/Flu (not that I don't think this shouldn't be tested), particularly in MSS mCRC where myeloid suppression and immune exclusion are major barriers.

* https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-therapy/fulltext/S1525-0016(18)30449-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s43018-026-01167-6 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1535610820305973
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NY1972 NY1972 3 weeks ago
Single large dose CART is not going to work. Kimmtrak is like a weekly low dose CART
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 3 weeks ago
I wouldn't say that CAR-T is not the long-term solution, but rather the current CAR-T's are probably not the long-term solution.

Satricabtagene autoleucel has shown CAR-T's can produce clinically meaningful benefit in at least some solid tumours. Now others are in late-stage development, including https://biopharmaapac.com/news/92/8031/oricell-advances-first-gpc3-car-t-therapy-into-confirmatory-phase-ii-trial-for-advanced-liver-cancer.html and https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2026/06/08/3307886/0/en/Lyell-Immunopharma-Provides-Update-on-Safety-Profile-of-LYL273-in-Relapsed-or-Refractory-Metastatic-Colorectal-Cancer-and-Amends-Phase-1-Trial-to-Phase-1-2-Expansion.html

As for FT836, if it eventually shows modest ORRs in some indications, but prolonged disease stabilisation, and improved OS, it could still win out.
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NY1972 NY1972 3 weeks ago
CART is not the long term solution for solid cancers
The fascinating thing is that Kimmtrak's survival curve looks qualitatively similar to checkpoint inhibitors:

Low ORR
Survival benefit greater than expected
Long-term survivors
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
PR https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2026/06/04/3306754/24675/en/fate-therapeutics-showcases-data-from-ft819-and-ft839-programs-at-the-european-congress-of-rheumatology-annual-meeting.html+

Data https://www.fatetherapeutics.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/EULAR-2026_Poster_FT819-102-FINAL.pdf and https://www.fatetherapeutics.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/FT839_EULAR_2026_FINAL.pdf
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
PR https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2026/06/01/3304368/0/en/fate-therapeutics-showcases-clinical-data-for-ft836-at-the-american-society-of-cancer-oncology-annual-meeting.html

Poster https://www.fatetherapeutics.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/ASCO-2026_Poster.pdf
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
New deck https://ir.fatetherapeutics.com/static-files/eda64ddb-7bcc-4539-972f-cef267a099f2

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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
Based on the poster, I don't think it is possible to determine the cause of the sepsis event. In heavily pre-treated mCRC patients, sepsis can occur for many reasons unrelated to the therapy itself.
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NY1972 NY1972 4 weeks ago
What caused Sepsis without LD?
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
Based on the slides, NT-175 looks interesting. The slide that jumps out is in metastatic pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma. Even with the very few patients treated, seeing multiple responses is noteworthy. Historically, that type has been one of the most difficult solid tumours for any therapy.

The ORR, DCR, (m)PFS, (m)DoR, and the fact that some responses appear ongoing is encouraging.

As for the failures, a lot barriers still remain even when persistence is largely solved. That is the kind of information that can often result in next generation versions.

A know a new version will add a CD8 co-receptor into CD4+ T-cells and knockout CBL-B as well https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/85/8_Supplement_1/3478/758580/Abstract-3478-Pre-clinical-characterization-of https://jitc.bmj.com/content/13/Suppl_2/A396 https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT06218914

Going forward, it should be possible for them to insert a single multifunctional DNA cassette into the TRAC locus with manufacturing improvements. For the former, they could add an optimised TCR, CD8 co-receptor (+/- co-stim domain(s)), cytokine signal(s), and additional modifications, such as shRNA to knockdown CBL-B and TGFRB2.




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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
So far, so good. Eligibility required R/R disease, and at least three prior lines of therapy, including a proteosome inhibitor, an immunomodulatory drug, and an anti-CD38 mAb. All patients achieved a response, and responses deepened over time. The one patient with extramedullary disease showed complete resolution by month one. A lymphoma candidate is already in the works. I wouldn't be surprised if they expand to autoimmune diseases as well.

For solid tumours, I know of at least three companies developing ''armoured'' in vivo CAR-T therapies, including Waypoint Bio, which is leading the pack.

As for off-targets, still too early to say.

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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
So far, a mixed bag. At future updates I'd want to see mono, paclitaxel-containing regimens, more KRASwt MSS mCRC patients, and patients with liver mets. Also, are any reductions/responses transient or durable. In addition, Day-22 biopsy analyses.

Adding lymphodepletion (despite the entire premise that it is not needed) chemo could improve the expansion and persistence of FT836 by creating "space" and reducing competition for homeostatic cytokines. The question remains if and how much efficacy is being sacrificed to avoid lymphodepletion. It would be easier to add conditioning later than to convince doctors and patients to accept conditioning if they demonstrate activity without it.

There are also rational adjuncts, including low-dose 5-FU, low-dose radiotherapy, low-dose panobinostat, and low-dose celecoxib. At least two of these would be straightforward clinically.
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NY1972 NY1972 4 weeks ago
It is a sad day for cancer patients
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NY1972 NY1972 4 weeks ago
BCMA TCE, biAb were great in MM too. Works great on plasma cell depletion. But SLE is not cancer, it is germinal centers driven by Tfh and LLPC. Invivo will be useless in solid cancers where T cells are suppressed, TCE, biAb, ADC are all useless. What is the chance of 0ff target editing that creates leukemic T cells?
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
An update: ''All 18 patients with relapsed or refractory multiple myeloma who have so far been treated with Kelonia’s KLN-1010 had no cancer in their bone marrow one month later, as determined by a test for minimal residual disease (MRD). All patients able to be assessed six months after treatment still had no cancer, and the patient with the longest follow-up—beyond 10 months—also remained MRD negative.'' https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/asco-kelonia-keeps-vivo-car-t-momentum-rolling-nutty-100-response-rate
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NY1972 NY1972 4 weeks ago
AI/ML is not good enough for MSS CRC. PDAC. You need ipsc cells with CAR/ good target, not autologous T cells from serum of 3L patients. Look at NT-175, the cells persist after 12 months. HLA downregulation made it useless after 6 in PDAC
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 4 weeks ago
The CD58 KO is one of the more differentiated aspects of what Fate is doing, while CD16A with the mAb has a clear rationale.

As for CAR design, Fate developed an AvER, which improved antitumour activity https://jitc.bmj.com/content/12/Suppl_2/A355

Also, AI/ML models can analyse data from massive high-throughput screens to predict how combinations will affect cell function, cytotoxicity, and persistence https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq0225

Platforms like CAR-Toner have been developed as well https://communities.springernature.com/posts/harnessing-ai-to-refine-the-future-of-car-t-therapy-insights-behind-the-development-of-car-toner

The really interesting future is not just using AI/ML to optimise CARs, but optimising the entire engineered cell and phenotype for different cancers.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
I no longer think the CAR design and lineage antigen selection will be as important as CD58 KO. The key is immune escape for the T cells in the highly suppressive MSSCRC. The beauty of FT836 is the lowered cell adhesion which minimize myeloid cell interaction and CD16A which increase tumor cells interaction thru Ab.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
Thanks. For this trial, the primary endpoint is CRR (at week 26), which requires UPCR, eGFR, and no rescue therapy.

Based on the data so far, it suggests some patients achieve deep renal responses (that would be CRR), while the cohort overall showed broad renal improvement. It will be interesting to see the EULAR data looking at reproducibility across the cohort.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
The CEO, Dr. Wang, disclosed for the first time that the dual-target CAR-iNK product NEUK203-215 for autoimmune diseases has enrolled seven patients with no SAEs to date, and all patients showed a successful immune reset in the peripheral blood. Except for the first low-dose patient whose response was close to the target, other patients treated with medium to high doses achieved or exceeded the present endpoints within up to three months.

Another CAR-iNK product for DLL3+ solid tumours, NEUK203-13, has been tested in the first patient, who demonstrated a good safety and tolerability profile. In addition, iPSC-derived iT and iMSC products have completed the development and validation of editing and manufacturing processes, progressing to preclinical evaluation.

They have also initiated in vivo CAR tech and product development, with early proof-of-concept for proprietary CD7 antibody-conjugated tLNP-specific delivery platforms.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
Waypoint Bio has raised $20 million in a Series A financing to test multiple cell therapies in China.

They plan at least three IITs in China with this new funding round, which comes on top of an initial raise of $14.5 million https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240628087950/en/Waypoint-Bio-Launches-with-%2414.5M-to-Turbocharge-Drug-Discovery-using-in-vivo-Spatial-Pooled-Screening-Technology

Two of the CAR-T cell programs (both ex vivo and in vivo) will target Claudin 18.2 in gastric, GE junction and/or pancreatic cancers, and should begin by the end of the year. A third (in vivo) for CRC and prostate will be tested at a later date.

One armouring strategy it will use is a novel synthetic protein that boosts the infiltration of T-cells into tumours and, once inside, increases the proliferation and cytotoxicity.

Preclinical data https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/84/6_Supplement/6329/735626/Abstract-6329-Pooled-in-vivo-screening-of-hundreds https://jitc.bmj.com/content/12/Suppl_2/A382 https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/85/8_Supplement_1/3181/757112/Abstract-3181-Single-cell-characterization-and https://jitc.bmj.com/content/13/Suppl_2/A265
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
NK still works in AML , NHL based on AFMD trials data, not CRC, NSCLC ..................
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
I wrote off NK after NK engagers failed miserably compared to TCE. It can't even compete in AID, look at the dosages NKTX, ARTV use for RA. It is too lame
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
Newer work from the U of M suggests that transcriptional programming can improve iNK function https://academic.oup.com/jimmunol/article-abstract/214/11/2961/8239067

Also, the ''best'' engineered products may need to build on an tissue-resident adaptive phenotype, not bulk NKs. Again, recent data from the U of M https://aacrjournals.org/cancerimmunolres/article/doi/10.1158/2326-6066.CIR-25-1229/784908/Integrated-Single-Cell-Profiling-Reveals

The tissue-resident adaptive NKs were the only subset (out of six) that demonstrated consistent, robust associations with improved survival across different primary, therapy-naïve and metastatic solid tumours, and in response to checkpoint blockade. Notably, elevated infiltration of these NKs was more prognostic than high tumour mutational burden in certain types treated with checkpoint blockade. Additionally, these NKs were strongly correlated to the infiltration of CD8+ T-cells and B-cells in tumours. Interestingly, paired pre- and post- checkpoint blockade treated tumours revealed expansion of cytotoxic tissue-resident adaptive NKs after treatment.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
The MICA/B intellectual property may be valuable, though the moat may ultimately come from engineering rather than the antigen target alone.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
They can't finish P1 dosing study by June if they didn't focus on tumor type and regiment. MSS CRC and Cetuximab + FT839 was chosen before P1 started.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
The HER2 arms don't necessarily imply cetuximab combinations are succeeding. Two of the Regimens were likely designed to test FT836 with the HER2 mAb in parallel, especially given the CD16 receptor. The stronger evidence will come from expanded cohort data (if it is presented in 2H): whether activity appears beyond isolated responders, whether mono FT836 show signals, and whether paclitaxel improve outcomes versus mAb combinations alone.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
If the cetuximab combo failed in 3,4 pts, the logical follow up would be LD taxane regiment D arm, not the HER2 Ab arm. They are not trying to prove Abs still work as salvage therapies
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
If true (about all nine), that would matter because the early efficacy signals could mostly reflect combination activity, not FT836 monotherapy, so it becomes harder to infer whether FT836 alone contributes meaningfully.

As for LD chemo and RT, true, but the current protocol has a number of arms, including with paclitaxel, which suggests they think tumour/TME preparation may matter.

Also, the HER2 arms may exist because of different populations and a broader commercial opportunity.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
For the OV trial just canceled, pts must have received prior bevacizumab. They want an intact BBB in GBM pts to see the impact of CAR mica/b only
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
They shut down the FT536 trial on ovarian cancer. The GBM trial is to see the impact of mica/b CAR on CNS lesions and safety.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
Many bios including ones in China can make ipsc NK. I don't see much value there. I think it is the CAR they are interested in, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute holds the mica/b trunk patent.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
Opening this trial suggests continued institutional confidence in the broader platform and safety profile, but for an academic trial it looks unusually conservative looking at the number they plan to enrol and the (primary) endpoint. As for the exclusion criteria (prior bevacizumab or cellular therapy), it could reflect concerns around immune effects, confounding interpretation, wound healing, and/or edema.

I think the trials (including another in recurrent ovarian, fallopian tube, and primary peritoneal cancers also using FT536) will feed directly back into the next-gen iPSC engineering strategy that the U of M has a number of grants for like this https://reporter.nih.gov/search/d9lW8yEhyEKJeSffPzNN6Q/project-details/11158564
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
''Results:

First three pts (all MSS mCRC; median: age 45 y, prior therapies of 5, disease duration of 51 months) were treated in Regimen C dose level 1 (DL1 = 300 million cells/dose, Days 1 and 15 with cetuximab, no CCT) and completed dose limiting toxicity (DLT) evaluation (data cut-off 15 JAN 2026) with no DLTs, FT836-related serious adverse events, cytokine release syndrome (CRS), immune effector cell-associated neurotoxicity syndrome (ICANS), or graft-versus-host disease (GvHD) reported. One of the three pts demonstrated a CEA response with >50% reduction (480 ng/mL at BL; 230 ng/mL at 4 weeks after first FT836 infusion) that correlated to mass shrinkage in all target lesions in a week 7 CT scan (obtained after data cut-off date). Of the other two pts, one experienced PD while the other was not yet assessed at the time of abstract submission.

FT836 was detected in peripheral blood (PB) following the first dose, with persistence observed up to 1 week. Notably, FT836 cells were detected beyond the initial PB detection in a tumor biopsy obtained at Day 22 (±3 days) indicating greater persistence in tissue compared to PB, supporting the value of additional engineered elements. EGFR and MICA/B antigens were identified in 3/3 baseline tumor biopsies, highlighting the relevance of multi-antigen targeting in driving patient outcome.''
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
All 9 pts are FT836 + cetuximab except 1. There is no need for LD chemo or RT. If cetuximab combo failed, they would have tried the triple combo, not HER2 Ab. U of M would not start another GBM trial with FT536 if targeting mica/b trunk failed in MSS CRC. Watch what the institution doing, why bother with CNS lesions if peripheral lesions didn't respond
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 1 month ago
Abstract is out today. I'm not expecting much (in it), but when the data is presented I will be looking to see if there is activity in those with liver metastases and as a single agent. Also, if paclitaxel adds anything, does an antibody help, and does the triple combination outperform.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
Looks like U of M is preparing to treat MSS CRC pts. with CNS lesions. The OR they saw in pts without CNS lesions must be significant. They are using FT 536 in GBM pts as POC.
Exclusion: Received prior treatment with bevacizumab or any other cellular therapy available on or off a clinical trial.
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NY1972 NY1972 1 month ago
My guess is 8 to 9 patients will be MSS CRC, 8 EGFR, 1 HER2
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 months ago
This new update is going to be more informative, but it still will be a small cohort, especially spread across multiple regimens, including Regimen C (cetuximab combo) and Regimen E (trastuzumab combo). So far, safety remains the strongest story. A key question will be if the first CRC signal is reproducible.
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NY1972 NY1972 2 months ago
selective depletion of pathogenic immune cell subtypes in RA and SLE disease samples, including over 99% of B cells, plasmablasts, and plasma cells and more than 90% of activated CD4+ and CD8+ T cells, while sparing non-activated T cells
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NY1972 NY1972 2 months ago
Pivotal starting 7/1/2026
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TrendTrade2016 TrendTrade2016 2 months ago
FATE bio beast set up
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NY1972 NY1972 2 months ago
Sword only depletes high 4-1bb+ cells, Dr. V mentioned that in presentation. You can check the poster on 836 to see this There is not many activated effectors in MSS CRC anyway unlike NSCLC. CD58 KO also raise the threshold for sword to deplete most immune cells activated.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 months ago
I think it will be a standard poster showing initial safety and signs of activity. The interesting part will be the biology (no conditioning +/- combo with mAbs), but this is more proof-of-mechanism.
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 months ago
4-1BB is upregulated on activated CD4+ and CD8+ T-cells, as well as NK cells. So the ADR wouldn't just deplete (a subset of) Tregs, it could also affect activated antitumour T-cells and/or NK cells. Hopefully, they will look at this and present data in the near future.
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NY1972 NY1972 2 months ago
IT = CXCR2
another Treg depletion
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10341-w
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jondoeuk jondoeuk 2 months ago
Early pharmacodynamic evidence across three different trials in China (two in autoimmune* and one in haematological malignancies) show that in vivo mRNA CAR approaches can induce systemic CD19+ B-cell depletion across compartments (blood, LN, and/or BM), but still without sufficient numbers to determine safety, durability, and long-term clinical benefit.

* Being presented at the upcoming ASGCT conference.
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