Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP) Options

We are just minions.. it is beyond all of us.. no matter what court says, no matter what document says...
Game is too powerful for all of us... no one gives away Billions especially who can take it from you.. it will be a miracle.. if we see anything even we are the rightful owners... Game of attrition.. that is what power use and it is a similar game of Attrition by using law against us..

But what about escrow? 😀

JHD

Thanks ron_66271.

Can a Brokerage House make Unsecured Loans…

To un-accredited investors?

Absolutely Not

The securitization for the naked loans comes from past history for accredited investors who have the capital in their accounts as collateral.

That isn’t your or me. Yet.



Ron

Nd9. I Gave You Every Upvote I Could.

The Derivative Market of CDS is looking to be settled.

We all are overdue for this to end!



Ron

We’ve talked this before but I really don’t care about having to pay taxes or paying interest on loans. Those are good problems, that I hope I have.. right now, all I care about is getting paid, and soon.

Nd9

ron_22671, banks give out unsecured loans all the time. There are no assets tied to those unsecured loans.

In this case, I believe CSNY is saying based on your previous Wampq, wamkq, wamuq escrow stock, the brokerages have your assets, and so they can lend out money based on those assets, and they can put a freeze on your withdrawals (when escrow stock paid by jpm, fdic, wmih), until you pay them back.

Jmho
Nd9

JD WENTWORTH Isn’t a Brokerage House.

Poor example.

The loans she has alluded to makes your loan a naked loan.

Totally illegal.



Ron

What Hard Assets Did You Have For Collateral?

You won’t get a loan based upon your looks.

I can’t and I’m much better looking than you.
Just ask me!



Ron

RON

REALLYYYYYYYYYY think again pard, I mean really !!!!!!

'"""""What she is proposing is totally illegal.I didn’t respond to this on BP because I would have been banned again.""

ASK JD WENTWORTH HOW ILLEGAL THAT IS

OH and imho you wouldn't you have been banned for saying that at all

Ron
COOL but what about 640 to 1280 acres of land and 3 homes and 1 guest home and the equipment and everything to do dat?????????????? Even here now your gonna pay 5 to 10K per acre,
4 houses 800K
Equipment prob 250-350K
3 barns 86k per

RUN the numbers

Now don't get me wrong, IF IF IFIN my divie would cover that, I will never borrow ...........

Yes Nd9, That’s What She Said.

I have a Margin Account. My money isn’t available to trade until the money clears.

What she is proposing is totally illegal.
I didn’t respond to this on BP because I would have been banned again.
I agree with AZ that she is compromised. I have evidence.

How many months elapse before you get the money?
You are then left very exposed.


What if Example;
The Brokers front you a loan based on the understanding of a pending distribution.
You take the loan.
Then the market is disrupted (planes flying into buildings).


I’m fully expecting cash distributions.

The numbers have told us.



Ron

Ron, well, maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that is what CSNY said, that we would be offered loans, based on upcoming distribution.

Thanks
Nd9

Why Take a Loan out Against Cash Distributions?

A major part of our financial return is Cash.

Just set up your brokerage accounts to transfer money to your bank accounts.

I already have.

I don’t believe that any brokerage can offer a forward looking loan on money not received!
Not even a Margin account.
Totally illegal.



Ron

Just curious....who here receive the offer for the loan?????  Would like to see the message if it was against their margin account.....like I said just curious.....

Not sure

BBANBOB, was it just Schwab? Has anybody heard anything about the other brokerages. I owned LEHNQ but within my Etrade acct.

thanks,
ND9

In a way that's a good thing, right? They wouldn't dangle that type of loan out there, if there was nothing coming back.

To be honest, I would borrow some money immediately to pay off some bills.

McMahon stepped out of the chambers, grabbed a law book , read some pages and then went back into the chambers.
Exigent Circumstances….
Glad that at least one individual stood up for the mom & pop investors

The only issue is we can all claim a potential distribution would put many in goood/great situations.....still speculation...no guarantees.....so you claimed yourself you do not know when or guarantee anything....but you still refer to yourself in the third person....strange....love coop is still the tell above 100...so keep referring yourself in the 3rd person..

Before anyone thinks about the next 10 years, perhaps they should take a look at the last interview with Jeff Nyquist.
The video is a bit long, but the key message can be found between 1:34:12 and 1:35:04

Agree ND. So if they offered you a loan today for 5 million, based on your potential future holdings vs you actually getting distributions maybe 3 months down the line, I guess you would just wait since you already waited for 16 years.
BUT if you anticipate a downturn and needed cash asap to capitalize on the potential downturn, then it’s an offer you may not refuse.

Bban , And the issue you 2 disagree on, is in parenthesis below :

AZ : 75/25 to the end (of the LT)
Bban : 75/25 to the end (of all distributions)

I guess it’s just the interpretation.

One has to understand the TRUE VALUE of this much money in the proper hands........................

They could easily leverage this to 15 to 20 X's and while doing that, EASILY pay us 10% of our face annually and then at the end of 10 yrs, and then give us the lump and still make out like bandits

I just hope my need for money for property and homes and equipment doesn't exceed my divi, since I hate to borrow anything

GOODIE

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR be given shares in the PRIVATE company and IT uses our money and IT provides us with a healthy dividend ON OUR MONEY. Now they could do this for say an EXTENDED TIME frame say 10 yrs then allow us to take our money out or continue to participate with them and get divies. AND LET'S SAY the divie was 10% of your holdings and then at 10 yrs ya got availability to the lump sum in the end............ SOrry but DA BOYZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ can make one hell of a lot more money than I Can

Now I feel I know how nasty these boyzzzzzzz are and I feel very few of us will be invited to the party on that private side
Won't go onto it again but I hold a NICE CHUNK of K's XXX,XXX and a few 100 O and I wonder f I will even make the grade

But if kicked to the curb with FAIR COMPENSATION , then I guess I would just have to live with it

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-mcmahon-063b123a

THANK YOU SIR yes it was HIM

"Wasn't that in fact the guy that stated ""EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES""

Perhaps US Trustee Joseph McMahon?

BBAN, Some have speculated that those with X amount of P's, might be invited to invest with the 'big boys'. If that were to be the case, ones funds would most likely be locked up for a period of time. THIS might be where you would be given a chance to borrow against your own value.

I don't think CSNY said they would force you to borrow. I think what she said was that once it was known a distribution was coming, IF YOU WANTED TO, the Brokerages would allow you to borrow money, based on your future distribution. That is what I remember. It wasn't that you HAD to borrow your own money, it was more like you could borrow BEFORE you got your money.

JMHO
ND9

SEE WE ACTUALLY AGREE on a lot of things

Just not ON ONE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE

TIME WILL TELL AND TIME TELLS ALL

ALL will be JUST FINE BUT, A few will be finer BY DESIGN

IF not the DIPS and all the BIG BOYZZZZZZZZZZ would have bought commons, well guess what, THEY DID NOT and they own 70% of the TPS P;s K's

Do any here honestly believe they are smarter than FOLKS that do this FOR A LIVING

Wasn't that in fact the guy that stated ""EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES"" they guy that was trying to audit /examine , can't remember what his name of position in this case was! ??? EXAMINER??????????????????

~ 100% AGREE' ... No Debt, NONE, EVER, period ... any Debt Structure or Debt Conversion, Can EVER Be Forced Upon ol' cactus, ... ol' cactus ALWAYS Invests 100% with CASH, and Now ALL WaMu', and the WMIH 2018 Acquired Sub Grouping, COOP Participations, along with the LBHI Class 10-b's and Class 12's ~

... make up any "feel good" numbers yooozzzzz' want to ... the Actual Process that has occurred, is much more important than shakin' ones fist at the moon' with a bottle of wine (pun intended LOL) ... LOL' ...

... ol' cactus owns it all ... ol' cactus believes in a positive documented eventual financial result ... ol' cactus will get his (ROI) returns along with everyone else' ... so,

bash away' ...

AZ

And why did Mr. Nelson requested court at minimum, EC should take over the control of WMILT after all claims are settled and which happened in Jan 2020 and administrators stepped in and MW went hide mode (may be under a agreement with different LLC name)?

I think Bop had said the same thing a few months ago on BP. (offer loans against an impending payout)
Seems nobody wants to miss out on making money in this saga. ( FOMO ) Fear Of Missing Out

ANd people would have the money to fight this

NOT KOSHER AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL BUT CRIMINAL

SOrry but I do NOT DO DEBT or BORROW MONEY, haven't in the last 15 yrs

ANd I'll be damned if they are gonna make me borrow against my own money, WHEN IT IS MINE

No...what I said was there is 16+ years 365+- days in a year.....it could be a million pages...yet there is still time this can be read...heck you have cactus claiming he has read everything....in the same breath you are not challenging him... or Ron...or RD.....even the coffee lady claimed she read everything....

I feel the same!! Would be very odd!

""" order to let us borrow against"""
not sure how they can force us to borrow against our own money !
What if I do NOT WANT TO BORROW and just want my money...............................

I know that if one is NOT ALLOWED access to THEIR OWN MONEY and forced to borrow, THERE WILL BE LAWSUITS GALORE

Still contend it would not be legal

.

I think it will be Schwab or other Participant in order to let us borrow against.

The FDIC and DTCC will be the melting Block. Some say the SWF

FLG shares

Hi Ron. Skagit Valley. Born and raised Sedro Woolley.

JHD

You must have a treasury account in order to receive a bond

Ron, you soar with the eagles

It will come in cash, Bonds, and shares Jpm, Coop, and f/f stock from the DTCC. Tex will get zero for being a bad boy.

I would like to point out a specific document in the CH11 case:
https://www.veritaglobal.net/document/0812229100316000000000005

Debtors’ Objection to Proof of Claim of Tranquility Master Fund, Ltd. (Claim No. 2206) dated March 15, 2010.
What’s interesting about this document is that it has 10,184 pages — and based on my experience with US laws, which are thousands of pages long and often hide things, I suspect there might be things in the above-mentioned document that needed to be said but were meant to remain hidden.

Maybe someone here could take a look at it, I’m not too deep into this matter.

I really have to apologize here!

Last time, I wrote (https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175974793) that there were 19,192 documents in the CH11 case, and I assumed there were 4 pages per document, which is incorrect.

I also called @Lodas a liar for claiming that he had read all the documents. I apologize for that.

What is now correct:

It's not 76,768 pages, it's actually 489,703 pages.
This results in a total reading time of 1,275 days — assuming you're not old and can read quickly.

So, I would now call Lodas a huge liar.

And if Pickstock now claims that this is feasible... well, everyone can have their own opinion on that. 😁

Zero